Duet3D Logo Duet3D
    • Tags
    • Documentation
    • Order
    • Register
    • Login

    Terrible print

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved
    3D Printing General Chat
    print quality print quality
    12
    57
    2.9k
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • apex2011undefined
      apex2011
      last edited by

      Sorry, here's the picture

      print.JPG

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • percarundefined
        percar
        last edited by

        What material are you using?
        What slicer are you using?
        Have you calibrated your extruder so that you are getting the proper steps per mm
        It appears that you are not getting proper extrusion maybe some slippage, or some blockage in the extruder.

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • apex2011undefined
          apex2011
          last edited by

          Material is Premium PLA Print temp 190-230
          Slicer is Simplify 3D

          I have calibrated the extruder but it was a little while ago so I will do it again

          Thank you!

          droftartsundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by

            What printer is it? It looks like maybe an ender 3. Have you seen this guide series? It goes through setup and calibration, etc. https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+1:+Wiring/37

            We'd need to see your config.g and print settings to have a more educated guess.

            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • Corexyundefined
              Corexy
              last edited by

              If nothings blocked or the extruder gear isn't skipping, you are at best under extruding massively.

              I'd try calibrating the extruder esteps at 205degC for that material with a fresh nozzle fitted, any listen for any clicking or bad behavior from the extruder while doing it.

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • droftartsundefined
                droftarts administrators @apex2011
                last edited by

                @apex2011 Post your config.g, also send M115 and post response. A little information about your machine may be helpful too. Is the print a test cube? Could be that you have the Z steps per mm set wrong.

                Ian

                Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • CaiJonasundefined
                  CaiJonas
                  last edited by

                  do the auto pid tuning

                  apex2011undefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • Kajundefined
                    Kaj
                    last edited by

                    Is it set to the correct filament diameter on the slicer?

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • apex2011undefined
                      apex2011
                      last edited by

                      Sorry for the late replies. I have attached my config.g

                      Printer is an Ender 3. the print is a test cube

                      slicer settings are:
                      Nozzle Diameter 0.40
                      Extrusion multiplier 0.90
                      retraction 4mm
                      retraction speed 2400mm/min
                      extruder temp 230
                      bed temp 60
                      Fan Speed 0 first layer 80 for the rest

                      M115 response FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 Maestro FIRMWARE_VERSION: 2.03 ELECTRONICS: Duet Maestro 1.0 FIRMWARE_DATE: 2019-06-13b2

                      config.g

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • apex2011undefined
                        apex2011 @CaiJonas
                        last edited by

                        @CaiJonas I have done auto pid tuning but will try it again

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • jens55undefined
                          jens55
                          last edited by jens55

                          Extrusion multiplier should be around 1.0
                          from config.g:
                          I am not familiar with an ender 3 but the following thoughts are based on a Creality CR10
                          M92 should have an E value of around 100 unless you have a reduction gear extruder in which case it should be around 400.
                          Motor current seems a bit low but should work.
                          Edit:
                          I suspect that you re way too high on your steps per mm and the extruder is grinding your filament like there is no tomorrow. Every once in a while it catches and moves the filament forward a bit.

                          droftartsundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • droftartsundefined
                            droftarts administrators @jens55
                            last edited by

                            @jens55 said in Terrible print:

                            I suspect that you re way too high on your steps per mm and the extruder

                            He's got x128 microstepping set for E, so 769 / 8 and you get 96. Also mentioned here: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+2:+Configuration/38#s128

                            @apex2011 The way your print looks thinner as it goes up just makes me think the Z is moving too far. Can you shut me up by moving Z to 0, then move it up 10mm, and measuring how far it has moved up?!

                            Ian

                            Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

                            apex2011undefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • apex2011undefined
                              apex2011 @droftarts
                              last edited by

                              @droftarts please correct me if I misunderstood but I homed my Z axis and then moved up 10mm. I measured approx 9.98mm from Z home location
                              .

                              droftartsundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • droftartsundefined
                                droftarts administrators @apex2011
                                last edited by

                                @apex2011 said in Terrible print:

                                @droftarts please correct me if I misunderstood but I homed my Z axis and then moved up 10mm. I measured approx 9.98mm from Z home location
                                .

                                Thanks for checking! That seems correct. Would seem to be extrusion related, then.

                                Ian

                                Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  • How fast are you trying to print that cube?
                                  • Tangled filament path?
                                  • Clogged nozzle?
                                  • Loose pinch idler on the extruder?

                                  Those would be my guesses.

                                  Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

                                  apex2011undefined Phaedruxundefined 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • apex2011undefined
                                    apex2011 @Phaedrux
                                    last edited by

                                    @Phaedrux here are the print speeds f9d22d33-0738-42e1-a2ac-36b524fed9d8-image.png

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      So definitely not too fast.

                                      If you tell the hotend to extrude into free air, does it come out smoothly?

                                      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

                                      apex2011undefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • apex2011undefined
                                        apex2011 @Phaedrux
                                        last edited by

                                        @Phaedrux yes, it looks like it comes out nice and smooth, no skipping on the gear either.

                                        I had a VERY small step in the right direction by going through the entire setup process again. The print is still terrible....just a little less terrible lol

                                        fcf17a04-2e72-4732-9c0b-b18d5a8d54eb-image.png

                                        droftartsundefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • droftartsundefined
                                          droftarts administrators @apex2011
                                          last edited by

                                          @apex2011 Can you post the gcode file you're trying to print?

                                          Ian

                                          Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

                                          apex2011undefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            Do you happen to have the slicer configured to expect 3mm filament? This sometimes happens with Cura defaulting to 2.85mm filament after an update when you're actually using 1.75mm filament leading to huge under extrusion similar to what you're seeing.

                                            Your screen shot of the speed settings looks like... Simplify3D? What filament diameter do you have configured?

                                            Also, what nozzle size are you using and what size is configured in the slicer? Using a larger nozzle than you think could lead to under extrusion like that as well.

                                            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

                                            apex2011undefined 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • First post
                                              Last post
                                            Unless otherwise noted, all forum content is licensed under CC-BY-SA