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    • Vetiundefined
      Veti
      last edited by

      check that you are using x16 with interpolation for all drivers. sometimes people like to configure high microstepping and its overloading the cpu.

      also please update to the release firmware.

      there were a lot of changes and bugs in the earlier firmwares.

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      • EDG5000undefined
        EDG5000 @whosrdaddy
        last edited by EDG5000

        @whosrdaddy here is the config file: https://pastebin.com/ACg8bm6p

        @Veti I believe microstepping is set to x16 with interpolation.

        @Veti I am at 3.01beta2 (aka 3.0beta2). That is the one I should be on right?

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        • jay_s_ukundefined
          jay_s_uk
          last edited by

          @HC3D

          I would increase your acceleration from M201 Z20 to Z100.
          I would also probably increase your jerk M566 from Z12 to Z24

          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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          • whosrdaddyundefined
            whosrdaddy
            last edited by

            Yes, Z values are too low and will cause this issue...

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            • droftartsundefined
              droftarts administrators
              last edited by

              @HC3D I don't see your bed trying to move at each pause, and if it was related to bed levelling, it wouldn't print around the whole object, then pause moving between two close objects. It seems to pause before moving to a more complex object to print, eg a circle, like it's running out of commands to print. How are you running the print? Do you select it in the DWC interface, or are you sending it via USB/Octoprint? Can you post the gcode file, to see if there's anything different about it?

              Also, not related, but your using the default thermistor values on your bed heater:

              M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp

              This will be inaccurately reporting bed temperature. Find out what thermistor you have and update your config.g with the correct beta value.

              Ian

              Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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              • Scachiundefined
                Scachi
                last edited by

                Have you tried printing with retraction disabled/set to 0mm in your slicer just to check if keeps pausing then ?

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                • Nuramoriundefined
                  Nuramori
                  last edited by

                  What slicer program are you using and which version. Cura 4.0 had a bug that would cause your exact behavior, which was fixed in later releases.

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                  • EDG5000undefined
                    EDG5000
                    last edited by

                    After switching from Simplify3D, which I had used for a long time with another printer, to KISSlicer, the mentioned problems went away.
                    I have since then switched to Cura, which also does not have freezing issues.

                    For the record, here are my g-code files:

                    Model sliced in KISSLICER
                    Model sliced in Simplify3D

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by dc42

                      In your S3D file I notice that your retraction and reprime speed is just 0.6mm per second. This is very slow. Even though you are only using 0.8mm retraction, this means that each retract/reprime cycle will take around 2.7 seconds. Does this explain the pauses?

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                      • EDG5000undefined
                        EDG5000 @dc42
                        last edited by

                        @dc42 That must be it. Thanks for pointing out!

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                        • EDG5000undefined
                          EDG5000
                          last edited by

                          Now with Cura, the problem turns out to still be there.

                          @jay_s_uk @whosrdaddy, OK, I performed your suggested changes. The problem is still there, but I will keep those new values.
                          @droftarts I am printing by transferring the files using DWC first. I noticed my G-code file is fairly large, for example 11MB for a 45-minute print. Your hypothesis that the system is not able to handle the command rate is a possibility
                          @dc43 In cura, I am using a retraction speeds of 50mm/s, so retraction must not be causing issues now.

                          Perhaps the 11MB GCODE file is too dense for my system to process? My CAD tool cranks out a fairly high number of polygons; my STL output setting is fairly high.

                          Here is a video when printing a Cura-generated file: https://youtu.be/W3kOFaIqv9E
                          Here is the G-code file: https://www.mediafire.com/file/yua9zzaew00neom/CFFFP_Part1.gcode/file
                          Here is the STL file: https://www.mediafire.com/file/2fy9i8nwts74eba/Part1.STL/file

                          Any ideas as to what could be going on?

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                          • sebkritikelundefined
                            sebkritikel @EDG5000
                            last edited by sebkritikel

                            @HC3D said in Printer pausing 1-3 sec every ~10 print moves:

                            Now with Cura, the problem turns out to still be there.

                            @jay_s_uk @whosrdaddy, OK, I performed your suggested changes. The problem is still there, but I will keep those new values.
                            @droftarts I am printing by transferring the files using DWC first. I noticed my G-code file is fairly large, for example 11MB for a 45-minute print. Your hypothesis that the system is not able to handle the command rate is a possibility
                            @dc43 In cura, I am using a retraction speeds of 50mm/s, so retraction must not be causing issues now.

                            Perhaps the 11MB GCODE file is too dense for my system to process? My CAD tool cranks out a fairly high number of polygons; my STL output setting is fairly high.

                            Here is a video when printing a Cura-generated file: https://youtu.be/W3kOFaIqv9E
                            Here is the G-code file: https://www.mediafire.com/file/yua9zzaew00neom/CFFFP_Part1.gcode/file
                            Here is the STL file: https://www.mediafire.com/file/2fy9i8nwts74eba/Part1.STL/file

                            Any ideas as to what could be going on?

                            Took a quick look at the GCODE you posted, can you verify if you mean to set the GCODE flavor to Marlin in Cura?
                            ;FLAVOR:Marlin
                            If not, you can change it to RepRap under "Machine Settings"
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                            • EDG5000undefined
                              EDG5000
                              last edited by

                              @sebkritikel Ah, I see that Cura is configured to use Marlin flavor on my installation. I overlooked this setting.

                              As a test I switched it to RepRap and threw it in a diff tool. The main difference seems to be relative extrusion being used on RepRap while Marlin uses absolute extrusion. Could that be causing the freezes?

                              I suppose I could do a test with the new G-code generated in RepRap flavor.

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by

                                Yes please generate a new gcode using cura set to reprap flavour. Also check the start gcode for any speed settings being inserted by cura and delete them.

                                And please post your latest config.g.

                                And if you're still running 3.01beta2 I suggest updating to 3.01RC4.

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  If your previous config is still accurate I would change the Z and E axis speed settings as follows:

                                  M566 Z120 E1200           ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                  M203 Z600 E4000        ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                  M201 Z120 E2500            ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                  

                                  Your original values were very very conservative and could explain the long delays on retractions and layer changes.

                                  M566 Z12.00 E120.00            ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                  M203 Z180.00 E1200.00        ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                  M201 Z20.00 E250.00            ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                  

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