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    • botundefined
      bot @dc42
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      @dc42 Is there anything that a slicer could output to make improved motion planning easier for the firmware?

      I've been playing around with IceSL, which requires a LUA script to process the sliced model and generate gcode output. And therefore, we have an opportunity to use the raw, non-truncated, slice geometry data before it is turned to gcode and calculate anything we wish and format it alongside the gcode in any way we wish.

      Unfortunately, the underlying slicer does not generate curves. But, we can calculate angles, segment lengths, extrusion rates, etc. in the slicer and offload that from the FW.

      I'm currently making a RRF-specific printer profile for IceSL, which is basically just implementing all the features duet users expect, and producing gcode compatible with RRF.

      Long story short, we have the possibility now to do high-precision pre-processing of the gcode at the same time that we slice it.

      *not actually a robot

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      • Bipotronicundefined
        Bipotronic
        last edited by

        Implementation of Variables of GCode Meta Comments would be useful. Or is this function already implemented?

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        • zaptaundefined
          zapta @dc42
          last edited by

          @dc42 said in RepRapFirmware 3.02 planned improvements:

          Do you mean the M73 command?

          Yes, M73. This is what I got from in a 22minutes (estimated) gcode file:

          M73 P0 R22
          M73 P0 R22
          M73 P4 R21
          M73 P9 R20
          M73 P13 R19
          M73 P18 R18
          M73 P22 R17
          M73 P27 R16
          M73 P31 R15
          M73 P36 R14
          M73 P40 R13
          M73 P45 R12
          M73 P49 R11
          M73 P54 R10
          M73 P58 R9
          M73 P63 R8
          M73 P67 R7
          M73 P72 R6
          M73 P76 R5
          M73 P81 R4
          M73 P85 R3
          M73 P90 R2
          M73 P94 R1
          M73 P99 R0
          M73 P100 R0
          

          In the early phases of the print probably the remaining time R is more useful for the estimation and in later phase probably the percentage P and actual time so far will give a better estimation.

          The markers seem to be in (estimated) 1 minute intervals.

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators
            last edited by

            I've added M73 to the list for consideration.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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            • zaptaundefined
              zapta @dc42
              last edited by

              @dc42 said in RepRapFirmware 3.02 planned improvements:

              I've added M73 to the list for consideration.

              Thanks.

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              • CCS86undefined
                CCS86 @dc42
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                @dc42 said in RepRapFirmware 3.02 planned improvements:

                It's on the list for implementation, but IMO it's pointless as long as jerk or junction deviation is needed at corners. The first-order motion components need to be made continuous before or at the same time as worrying about third and high order components.

                What is causing that dependance?

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                • zaptaundefined
                  zapta @dc42
                  last edited by

                  @dc42, FYI, I run a small experiment correlating the M73 markers with actual prints (replaced them with G10 and M140 that propagated the values to standby fields in the json). Results look very good, both for linearity and absolute time values.

                  My slicer has default setting, without any calibration for the max speed, acceleration and jerk of my printer.

                  You can probably run tests much faster using simulator mode.

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                  • copystringundefined
                    copystring
                    last edited by

                    Please add inverted M80/M81 for meanwell PSUs.
                    I know. I'm inpatient. Is it a lot of work to implement this?

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                    • SpoonUnitundefined
                      SpoonUnit
                      last edited by

                      Could the option be added to set the min limit for behaviours similar to that controlled my M190. A default of 41 seems fine, but ultimately arbitrary, and having the option to hand control of this value to the operator would be nice. M143 sets max limits, perhaps it could be overloaded to support specifying min limits also?

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                      • droftartsundefined
                        droftarts administrators @dc42
                        last edited by

                        @dc42 really looking forward to playing with G5 Bezier curves!

                        Ian

                        Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators @copystring
                          last edited by

                          @copystring said in RepRapFirmware 3.02 planned improvements:

                          Please add inverted M80/M81 for meanwell PSUs.
                          I know. I'm inpatient. Is it a lot of work to implement this?

                          This is included in the planned work to make the PS_ON pin configurable.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                          • arhiundefined
                            arhi @dc42
                            last edited by arhi

                            @dc42

                            Support G5

                            Does this involve maybe also G15 / G16 ? (I don't know if any slicer know how to use them, I only used them when I wrote code manually on my old milling machine)

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                            • DaveAundefined
                              DaveA
                              last edited by

                              Maybe I'm just more confused than normal but I don't understand the versioning system.
                              Is 3.1.0, soon to be 3.1.1, not the latest stable release? If so, why is the next version going to be 3.02?

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                              • A Former User?
                                A Former User @DaveA
                                last edited by A Former User

                                @DaveA understandable confusion; the current 3.1.0 was supposed to be 3.01 until about the day it was released, presumably what would be 3.02 will be 3.2.0.

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators @DaveA
                                  last edited by dc42

                                  @DaveA said in RepRapFirmware 3.02 planned improvements:

                                  Maybe I'm just more confused than normal but I don't understand the versioning system.
                                  Is 3.1.0, soon to be 3.1.1, not the latest stable release? If so, why is the next version going to be 3.02?

                                  The next stable release, not counting patch releases such as 3.1.1, will now be called be 3.2.0. I have changed the title of this thread.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                  • garyd9undefined
                                    garyd9
                                    last edited by

                                    I'm hoping requests for 3.2 will also be entertained: Extend M409 to allow multiple keys to be requested.

                                    For example, assume something embedded that wants to determine how much time is probably left in a print (using the simulated time) would need to request job.file.simulatedTime as well as job.duration. Having to request the entire 'job' key to 3 levels deep can result in a large buffer. Having to make 2 M409 requests doubles the time needed to get the information.

                                    On the other hand, if M409 supported multiple keys, the request and response could be simplified:

                                    M409 K"job.duration","job.file.simulatedTime"

                                    (For discussion, I've also started a new thread: https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/16450/m409-multiple-keys-at-once)

                                    "I'm not saying that you are wrong - I'm just trying to fit it into my real world simulated experience."

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                                    • oliofundefined
                                      oliof
                                      last edited by

                                      Regarding line item 48: According to Marlin docs, UBL does support loading an existing mesh and applying 3-point or grid based tilt adjustment.

                                      <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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                                      • jay_s_ukundefined
                                        jay_s_uk
                                        last edited by

                                        Is the spreadsheet in the first post still being maintained?
                                        Does the equivalent exist for 3.3?

                                        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators @jay_s_uk
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                                          @jay_s_uk said in RepRapFirmware 3.2 planned improvements:

                                          Is the spreadsheet in the first post still being maintained?
                                          Does the equivalent exist for 3.3?

                                          Many of the items that were planned for 3.2 have been deferred to 3.3. You can see what's implemented in 3.2 in the RRF3 whatsnew file.

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                          • A Former User?
                                            A Former User @dc42
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                                            @dc42 said in RepRapFirmware 3.2 planned improvements:

                                            Many of the items that were planned for 3.2 have been deferred to 3.3. You can see what's implemented in 3.2 in the RRF3 whatsnew file.

                                            why the continual push back ?

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