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    fma
    last edited by 2 May 2021, 14:01

    Hi!

    After seeing Stephan (CNC Kitchen) video about the Voron 0, I started to build one! My current printer is huge, and I can't bring it with me for demos or other public events. The Voron 0 will be great for that, and will also be very usefull for most of my prints. Later, I will rebuild my big printer.

    I don't wan't to print fast, so I will also use a direct-drive extruder, based on the Orbiter, a custom hotend build from Slice Engineering heat break (bi-metallic), and other parts from different brands.

    I plan to use a Duet 3 Mini to control thie printer, instead of RPi+board+Klipper setup; does anyone already use it with this Voron 0 printer?

    Frédéric

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      pkos @fma
      last edited by 2 May 2021, 14:34

      @fma I just started rebuilding my Voron 0 to V0.1 with the duet mini.
      I should have it done next weekend hopefully.

      Voron 2.4 (Duet 3 6HC + 3HC standalone), Voron SW (Duet 3 mini 5+ standalone), Voron Trident (Duet 3 mini 5+ standalone), Voron 0.1

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        fma @pkos
        last edited by 2 May 2021, 14:48

        @pkos Great!

        Frédéric

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          PaulHew @fma
          last edited by 2 May 2021, 16:07

          @fma I am building another V0 but the V0.1
          I have been toying with the SKR, cheaper if you get it shipped from China, but I think after seeing this post has made up my mind, Duet Mini !
          Just need to look at the backpack for the SKR and LRS-100 and move the heatsets so the Duet mini can be mounted on the Underneath.

          I am also thinking about WiFi Version, but would have to hook in with a USB to set the WiFi connection up each time, wherever I might take it.
          Decisions decisions!

          Already have a 220V heater so will keep that as part of the build.

          RailCore II - Duet Mini + 1LC, Voron V0.1 - Duet Mini
          Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

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            fma @PaulHew
            last edited by 2 May 2021, 17:42

            @paulhew Forgot to say that I will use a 24V heat bed. I don' like having LV here, as this printer will be used by children...

            Frédéric

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              zapta
              last edited by 3 May 2021, 04:03

              The cult of Voron seems to catch significant momentum recently, with vendors offerings kits and products that target vorons (LDO frames, Fsyetc Spider, Funssor metal parts, etc).

              I am working on my V2.4 sourcing, most parts already arrived, black Misumi extrusions will take a little bit longer to arrive.

              So far Klipper seems to be recommended and most common firmware and Spyder seems to be the upcoming recommended controller.

              Next they will expand, I think, to desktop CNC machines but yet to be seen.

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                zapta @fma
                last edited by 3 May 2021, 04:10

                @fma said in Voron 0 + Duet 3 Mini:

                Forgot to say that I will use a 24V heat bed

                Do you have room for the larger power supply? I heard that the V0 design is very tight.

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                  fma @zapta
                  last edited by fma 5 Mar 2021, 04:59 3 May 2021, 04:58

                  @zapta said in Voron 0 + Duet 3 Mini:

                  @fma said in Voron 0 + Duet 3 Mini:

                  Forgot to say that I will use a 24V heat bed

                  Do you have room for the larger power supply? I heard that the V0 design is very tight.

                  As I drop the Bowden extruder and the Rpi, yes, no problem. The Duet3 Mini fits behind the Z axis, and the power supply fits below.
                  And a 120x120mm heatbed does not need a lot of current...

                  Frédéric

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                    PaulHew
                    last edited by 3 May 2021, 12:55

                    @fma Is there an available mount for the Mini that fits on the 15x15
                    I looked in voron users but I cannot find one.

                    P.

                    RailCore II - Duet Mini + 1LC, Voron V0.1 - Duet Mini
                    Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

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                      fma @PaulHew
                      last edited by 3 May 2021, 13:09

                      @paulhew I don't own a Duet 3 Mini yet, so didn't look for a mount. But I was thinking to make holes in the rear panel, and mount the Duet with spacers...

                      Frédéric

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                        Phaedrux Moderator @PaulHew
                        last edited by 3 May 2021, 19:48

                        @paulhew said in Voron 0 + Duet 3 Mini:

                        @fma Is there an available mount for the Mini that fits on the 15x15
                        I looked in voron users but I cannot find one.

                        P.

                        It has the same hole spacing as the Maestro, so if there is a mount for that it should work.

                        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                          PaulHew @Phaedrux
                          last edited by 3 May 2021, 20:07

                          @phaedrux Friend just designed one for me.
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                          He is good with F360
                          Just need to buy the board. 🙂

                          RailCore II - Duet Mini + 1LC, Voron V0.1 - Duet Mini
                          Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

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                            PaulHew @Phaedrux
                            last edited by 3 May 2021, 20:12

                            @phaedrux Sorry, my manners. That is good info, thank you. I will look for it so I can share.

                            RailCore II - Duet Mini + 1LC, Voron V0.1 - Duet Mini
                            Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

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                              zapta @PaulHew
                              last edited by 5 May 2021, 03:37

                              @paulhew said in Voron 0 + Duet 3 Mini:

                              He is good with F360

                              That's a skill that worth the learning time IMO.

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                                DanJunior
                                last edited by 19 Jun 2021, 10:33

                                I'm just wondering,if someone has a config.g to get the required esteps as reference. I'm just configuring my V0.1.

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                                  Phaedrux Moderator @DanJunior
                                  last edited by 19 Jun 2021, 17:23

                                  @danjunior Which extruder exactly?

                                  Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                    PaulHew @Phaedrux
                                    last edited by 19 Jun 2021, 17:31

                                    @phaedrux The V0.1 is a DirectDrive unit, BMG internals and the LDO Pancake stepper.

                                    Mine V0.1 is offline at the moment as I am going to have to rebuild the DD unit 😞

                                    even at 350ma it cooked again.
                                    The rating is suitable for High Temp applications..... So I and possibly like others think that it is suitable for an enclosure, which it is
                                    What I did not realise that the motor will heat itself up also, more than any of the OMC's I have been running with no problems @80% of their rating.

                                    Slightly disappointed that this info is not displayed clearly when looking at general info on the motor......

                                    RailCore II - Duet Mini + 1LC, Voron V0.1 - Duet Mini
                                    Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

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                                      oliof @PaulHew
                                      last edited by 19 Jun 2021, 20:38

                                      @paulhew depending on your microsteps, it'll be 345 or 690 steps/mm on the LDO pancake stepper meant for the Orbiter.

                                      <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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                                        keyz182
                                        last edited by keyz182 19 Jun 2021, 20:49

                                        This is what I have on my V0.1 + Duet 3 Mini 5+, with OMC steppers. No guarantees it's correct, still tuning in and adjusting, but it's printing things reasonably so should be a good starting point at least. Also, critique welcome 😛

                                        ; Configuration file for Duet 3 Mini 5+ (firmware version 3)
                                        ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                                        ;
                                        ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.3 on Fri Jun 04 2021 16:03:31 GMT+0100 (British Summer Time)
                                        
                                        ; General preferences
                                        G90                                                   ; send absolute coordinates...
                                        M83                                                   ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                        M550 P"voronzero"                                        ; set printer name
                                        M669 K1                                               ; select CoreXY mode
                                        
                                        ; Drives
                                        M569 P0.1 S0                                          ; physical drive 0.1 goes backwards
                                        M569 P0.2 S0                                          ; physical drive 0.2 goes backwards
                                        M569 P0.4 S0                                          ; physical drive 0.4 goes backwards
                                        M569 P0.3 S1                                          ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
                                        M584 X0.1 Y0.2 Z0.4 E0.3                              ; set drive mapping
                                        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                               ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                                        M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z400.00 E1370.00                    ; set steps per mm
                                        M566 X1080.00 Y1080.00 Z90.00 E150.00                   ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                        M203 X30000.00 Y30000.00 Z1200.00 E9000.00            ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                        M201 X4000.00 Y4000.00 Z450.00 E6000.00               ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                        M906 X1250 Y1250 Z400 E800 I25                        ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                        M84 S30                                               ; Set idle timeout
                                        
                                        ; Axis Limits
                                        M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                                      ; set axis minima
                                        M208 X120 Y120 Z120 S0                                ; set axis maxima
                                        
                                        ; Endstops
                                        M574 X2 S1 P"io3.in"                                  ; configure active-high endstop for high end on X via pin io3.in
                                        M574 Y2 S1 P"io5.in"                                  ; configure active-high endstop for high end on Y via pin io5.in
                                        M574 Z1 S1 P"io6.in"                                  ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Z via pin io6.in
                                        
                                        ; Z-Probe
                                        M558 P0 H5 F120 T3000                                 ; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                                        
                                        ; Heaters
                                        M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138          ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
                                        M950 H0 C"out0" T0                                    ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
                                        M307 H0 B1 S1.00                                      ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                                        M140 H0                                               ; map heated bed to heater 0
                                        M143 H0 S120                                          ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                                        M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"pt1000" R2200                      ; configure sensor 1 as PT1000 on pin temp1
                                        M950 H1 C"out1" T1                                    ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
                                        M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                      ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                                        M143 H1 S280                                          ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                                        
                                        ; Fans
                                        M950 F0 C"out6" Q75                                  ; create fan 0 on pin out6 and set its frequency
                                        M106 P0 C"Cooling" H1 T45 B0.5                     ; set fan 0 name and value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                        M950 F1 C"out5" Q75                                  ; create fan 1 on pin out5 and set its frequency
                                        M106 P1 C"Part" H-1 B0.5                          ; set fan 1 name and value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                        
                                        ; Tools
                                        M563 P0 D0 H1 F0                                      ; define tool 0
                                        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                       ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                        G10 P0 R0 S0                                          ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                                        
                                        ; Custom settings
                                        ; DHT22 Temperature Sensor
                                        M308 S10 P"io4.out+io4.in" Y"dht22" A"Chamber Temp"
                                        M308 S11 P"S10.1" Y"dhthumidity" A"Chamber Hum[%]"  
                                        
                                        ; Set bed screw positions for true bed leveling
                                        M671 X60:5:115 Y5:115:115 P0.5
                                        
                                        ;  Laser filament monitor with over the top R values 
                                        M591 D0 P6 C"io1.in" R0:200 E3.0 S1   
                                        
                                        ; ST7567 12864 display
                                        M918 P2 E2                                           ; enable ST7567-based 12864 display
                                        M150 X2 R32 U255 B32 S3                              ; set all 3 LEDs to white
                                        
                                        ; M955 P0 C"io0.out+io0.in"
                                        
                                        ; Miscellaneous
                                        M501                                                  ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                                        T0                                                    ; select first tool
                                        
                                        
                                        
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                                          PaulHew @keyz182
                                          last edited by 19 Jun 2021, 21:49

                                          @keyz182 What OMC have you got on the Extruder?

                                          1. I am interested
                                          2. I pray you do not suffer my fate where the LDO motor destroyed my DD plastics.
                                            I was running 800ma, later to find that was too high and should be about 350ish

                                          P.

                                          RailCore II - Duet Mini + 1LC, Voron V0.1 - Duet Mini
                                          Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

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