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Announcement: Duet 3 Toolboard revision v1.1

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    Luke'sLaboratory @JayJay
    last edited by 4 May 2021, 20:15

    @jayjay

    So in the inverse, if some EU resellers had gotten V1.1, it would be the EU having preferential treatment?

    I don't see any preferential treatment here, other than preferring customers who order parts sooner than later. It happened to be vendors in the US this time, and because of the global chip shortage, its really pronounced.

    I bet there are other releases where EU got parts first instead of the US. shrug

    Luke
    http://lukeslab.online

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      vistalert
      last edited by vistalert 5 Jun 2021, 02:19 6 May 2021, 02:07

      Wow I can't believe how off topic things have gotten, and how much energy is being consumed. It looks like there is a 1.0 -> 1.1 so minor revision.

      I can confidently say as a customer (not someone who is thinking of buying) that I expect revisions and major upgrades to be released. As long as the product I bought meets my requirements, I've not been disadvantaged, underserviced or left behind in anyway. I got what I needed, and paid for, even if a new one comes out tomorrow.

      The Duet team is incredibly honourable, and many have given 100s to 1000s of hours of their time supporting this community.

      I love that Voron design posted previously which really integrates the tool board into the carriage assembly. Nice work.

      Can't wait for v1.1 to arrive in Australia. Everything should land here first, as we're upside down, underneath most of you, so a few boards should fall down here quickly I think ๐Ÿ™‚

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        T3P3Tony administrators
        last edited by 6 May 2021, 18:50

        I have updated the documentation with an point for those designing mounts for the board. This is a diode on the back of the board that projects about 1.5mm from the back. this is less than the back of the through hole components but might interfere with a mounting solution if that is not taken into account.

        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Duet_3_Tool_Board?revisionid=HEAD#Section_Revision_v1_Num_1_1

        The STEP file linked has also been updated to include this.

        www.duet3d.com

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          Ariana
          last edited by 9 May 2021, 15:47

          Hey Guys,
          Hope you are doing well.
          Any chances that I can get the schematic and PCB of the new Version?
          Thank you in advance.

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            KipK
            last edited by 16 May 2021, 15:50

            So I need a Toolboard to finish a current build now. Which reseller in EU is supposed to receive 1.1 stock shortly?

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              fotomas @KipK
              last edited by fotomas 19 May 2021, 12:05

              @kipk
              I have reserved one at
              https://www.dold-mechatronik.de/

              They expect it to be in stock next week.

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                KipK @fotomas
                last edited by 20 May 2021, 10:59

                @fotomas thanks for the tip

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                  martin7404 @pixelpieper
                  last edited by martin7404 21 May 2021, 03:14

                  @pixelpieper looks great , but what about the orientation of the accelerometer?

                  Muldex IDEX Duet2+Duex5
                  Custom CoreXY 600x400 Hemera , Duet3+Toolboard+1HCL closed loop
                  Sapphire Pro with Duet2, with closed-loop motors
                  custom high temp E3D tool changer with Duet2+Duex

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                    zapta @T3P3Tony
                    last edited by 21 May 2021, 05:20

                    @t3p3tony said in Announcement: Duet 3 Toolboard revision v1.1:

                    @lbi we looked at that but, as you can see, there is not a lot of space left!

                    Every board has two sides. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                      T3P3Tony administrators @zapta
                      last edited by 21 May 2021, 05:23

                      @zapta true. in this case we need to keep the board manufacturable at a reasonable cost and also thin enough to fit on a hermera tool on a toolchanger ๐Ÿ™‚

                      www.duet3d.com

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                        pixelpieper @martin7404
                        last edited by 22 May 2021, 19:08

                        @martin7404 its a 3d-accelerometer, you can adjust the orientation in software.

                        Voron V2.434 / Duet 3 Mini5+, Duet 3 Expansion Mini 2+, Duet 1LC V1.1 Toolboard
                        Voron V0.250 / Duet 2 Maestro

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                          zapta @T3P3Tony
                          last edited by 22 May 2021, 22:36

                          @t3p3tony said in Announcement: Duet 3 Toolboard revision v1.1:

                          @zapta true. in this case we need to keep the board manufacturable at a reasonable cost

                          @t3p3tony, that's correct, good engineering is about striking the right balance.

                          BTW, I appreciate the density of your designs. I presume this one is also with Kicad. I played with much simpler design and know how much effort it takes.

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                            A Former User @T3P3Tony
                            last edited by A Former User 26 May 2021, 16:29

                            @t3p3tony

                            A small wish (and with please ๐Ÿ™‚ ) :

                            In the next iteration, maybe already the next board-run(?), please consider reviewing if you can add in also the through-hole-solderpads for the stepper-motor-out
                            (guess I am one of the few that are no "crimp-ist", push-in would be favourite, otherwise will stick to screw-in-terminals ๐Ÿ™‚ )

                            IMG_0858.JPG

                            Best regards

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                              dc42 administrators @A Former User
                              last edited by dc42 26 May 2021, 17:28

                              Push in is very nice, but expensive compared to crimp connectors, and quite large - I haven't seen any with less than 2.5mm pitch and they tend to be quite high.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                A Former User @dc42
                                last edited by A Former User 27 May 2021, 17:15

                                @dc42 said in Announcement: Duet 3 Toolboard revision v1.1:

                                Push in is very nice, but expensive compared to crimp connectors, and quite large - I haven't seen any with less than 2.5mm pitch and they tend to be quite high.

                                Thanks so much for answering! Yep most I found in some webshops were too expensive/big/... for now, but I just wanna try something other then crimping, maybe I stick with solder-in-screwin-terminals in the end... Guess I am on some sort of a quest there ๐Ÿ™‚ if you provide me the 4 additional motor-throughhole-solderpads, I will see what I get and will post it in the forum ๐Ÿ™‚ I guess my talent for crimping is just not really there ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                  dc42 administrators @A Former User
                                  last edited by 27 May 2021, 18:19

                                  @lbi do you have a proper crimp tool?

                                  I hate crimping, but once done it makes disconnecting and reconnecting wires much quicker than using screw terminals.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                    fotomas
                                    last edited by 27 May 2021, 18:48

                                    Are there any parts for crimping bundled with the toolboard (like duetboard)?

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                                      T3P3Tony administrators @fotomas
                                      last edited by 27 May 2021, 22:32

                                      @fotomas yes there is a connector pack with the board

                                      www.duet3d.com

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                                        martin7404 @fotomas
                                        last edited by martin7404 27 May 2021, 23:00

                                        @fotomas I did received mine from dold
                                        And it working great.
                                        For now I tested only accelerometer as far I am building new large 3d printer. It took 15 minutes to crimp wiring, solder the 120 ohm bridge and run.

                                        Muldex IDEX Duet2+Duex5
                                        Custom CoreXY 600x400 Hemera , Duet3+Toolboard+1HCL closed loop
                                        Sapphire Pro with Duet2, with closed-loop motors
                                        custom high temp E3D tool changer with Duet2+Duex

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                                          A Former User @dc42
                                          last edited by A Former User 28 May 2021, 07:16

                                          @dc42 said in Announcement: Duet 3 Toolboard revision v1.1:

                                          @lbi do you have a proper crimp tool?

                                          I hate crimping, but once done it makes disconnecting and reconnecting wires much quicker than using screw terminals.

                                          At least I am not alone in the universe with that issue ๐Ÿ˜Š ๐Ÿ˜€ yeah of course you have a point, I know I can force myself to do it, just the outcome is appropriate to my feeling while doing it, I can borrow a tool at work, but some of them work even better when "crimped" by hand with a tiny plier... Ah for now I crimp, it is alright. Just would be great in the future to have the possiblity maybe to even order them with no connnectors soldered and buy either a screw-in or a crimp-connector kit and just solder it there, and for that the 4 through-hole-pads for the motor are missing. I know this would be / is for advanced users... but my solder-skills are actually not as bad as my crimp-skills are. Didnยดt want to bother all of you. It is allright. Keep up your work!

                                          Best regards

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