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    Duet 3 Mini 5+ for a Voron V2.4?

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    • zaptaundefined
      zapta @dc42
      last edited by zapta

      Thanks @dc42. I considered the tool board idea but it may be too big to fit nicely. The Voron is a complete at tight design with great focus on aesthetics. 😉 I presume that the toolboard would be OK with the enclosed and normal than usual Voron chamber. As for the TMC2209, this is also what the stock Voron recommend so I presume they are all the same or does the heatsinks that come with the Chinese TMC2209 makes them more heat tolerant?

      As for fan cooling of the Mini 5+, is there a simple way to determine if it's sufficient? E.g. MCU temperature? Anything else? (The Voron 2.4 electronics is below the printing chamber and has a few fans on the skirt.

      @DIY-O-Sphere, yes, I plan to get a new Mini 5+ plus two drivers plugin module. This will provide better RGB LEDs support over the Duet 2 😉

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      • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
        DIY-O-Sphere @zapta
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        @zapta
        Other approach...I am alowed to show some pictures...not yet tested

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        Without inserts

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        Perhaps a little more distance needs to be provided for the cooling.
        We will get to know it.....

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        • zaptaundefined
          zapta @DIY-O-Sphere
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          @diy-o-sphere, that's a nice location. Would be nice to redesign the toolboard for a perfect fit (dual side components, consolidating connects, shape, location of mounting holes, etc).

          BTW, this is a custom distribution PCB, no components, just connectors. It may come with its own cover design, not sure.

          https://github.com/hartk1213/Voron-Hardware/tree/hartk1213/Voron-Hardware/Afterburner_Toolhead_PCB

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          • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
            DIY-O-Sphere @zapta
            last edited by DIY-O-Sphere

            @zapta
            No input shaping...or even more wires for LIS3DH accelerometer.
            And the wiring with CAN is so brilliant that I would never do it any other way again....

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            • zaptaundefined
              zapta @DIY-O-Sphere
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              @diy-o-sphere said in Duet 3 Mini 5+ for a Voron V2.4?:

              No input shaping.

              No way to connect an accelerometer to a Mini 5+ for input shaper calibration? That would be a show stopper for me.

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator @zapta
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                @zapta said in Duet 3 Mini 5+ for a Voron V2.4?:

                No way to connect an accelerometer to a Mini 5+ for input shaper calibration?

                Mini5+ will work with input shaping. I'm not sure what @DIY-O-Sphere was meaning. Perhaps he meant that if you didn't go with a toolboard 1.1 you'd need to add more wires for the accelerometer as well to get the input shaping.

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                • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                  DIY-O-Sphere @Phaedrux
                  last edited by

                  @phaedrux
                  You got it...👍

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                  • zaptaundefined
                    zapta @Phaedrux
                    last edited by

                    @phaedrux said in Duet 3 Mini 5+ for a Voron V2.4?:

                    Perhaps he meant that if you didn't go with a toolboard 1.1 you'd need to add more wires for the accelerometer as well to get the input shaping.

                    Thanks @Phaedrux. Is it reasonable to mount the accelerometer temporarily for calibration or is a strong argument for having the accelerometer mounted all the time?

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator @zapta
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                      @zapta said in Duet 3 Mini 5+ for a Voron V2.4?:

                      Is it reasonable to mount the accelerometer temporarily for calibration or is a strong argument for having the accelerometer mounted all the time?

                      My understanding is that it's only required for the initial measurements, so could be removed. But that's not to say there won't be some future benefit to having real time accelerometer data.

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                      • zaptaundefined
                        zapta @Phaedrux
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                        @phaedrux, thanks.

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                        • 3DPMicroundefined
                          3DPMicro
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                          I like the 50w heaters personally. Super fast heat up times. I used to kill one about every 100hrs at 350-380c until I spent a few extra bucks and got one from Slice. If your printing 250 and below the Slice or amazon/Ebay sourced versions will probably last forever.

                          Duet controlled Jet Lathe, scratch built micro mill and 3d printer. 1992 Haas VF2 VMC retrofit

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                          • zaptaundefined
                            zapta @3DPMicro
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                            @3dpmicro, last time I run PID tuning I got a warning message about a very high max temperature which cause me to be more humble when selecting heater wattage 😉

                            In my current printer I have a 40W 'only nozzle heater and it still heats faster than the bed.

                            BTW, I place an order for a Mini5+ and a dual drivers module, so will see how it will go. I am quiet excited about having only a small Wifi board in the Voron, dropping the SBC and the auxiliary 5V power supply. Need to see where to fit that external antenna. Keeping the clean box shape of the frame makes it easier to place it in any orientation while working on it.

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                            • 3DPMicroundefined
                              3DPMicro @zapta
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                              @zapta said in Duet 3 Mini 5+ for a Voron V2.4?:

                              @3dpmicro, last time I run PID tuning I got a warning message about a very high max temperature which cause me to be more humble when selecting heater wattage 😉

                              In my current printer I have a 40W 'only nozzle heater and it still heats faster than the bed.

                              Cant argue with the desire to be safe

                              Duet controlled Jet Lathe, scratch built micro mill and 3d printer. 1992 Haas VF2 VMC retrofit

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                              • Th0mpyundefined
                                Th0mpy @DIY-O-Sphere
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                                @diy-o-sphere Do you have the files for that back-side mount that you'd be willing to share? I'm getting ready to build my Voron 2.4 and I'm adding as many bells and whistles as I can 🙂

                                Usually the team that scores the most points wins the game.

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                                • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                                  DIY-O-Sphere @Th0mpy
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                                  @th0mpy

                                  At the moment, my friend is still struggling with the connection of the energy chain. He is currently adjusting the position and size of the chain so as not to lose any space in the x-direction. As soon as this works he will share them.

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                                  • zaptaundefined
                                    zapta @DIY-O-Sphere
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                                    Any issue with the Tool Board electronics operating in the enclosed and hotter than usual Voron V2.4 chamber?

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                                    • Dudek23undefined
                                      Dudek23 @zapta
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                                      @zapta At 60 degrees in the chamber, it works for me without any problems

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                                      • pixelpieperundefined
                                        pixelpieper @zapta
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                                        @zapta This is my solution with the Galileo variant of the clockwork extruder
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                                        Voron V2.434 / Duet 3 Mini5+, Duet 3 Expansion Mini 2+, Duet 1LC V1.1 Toolboard
                                        Voron V0.250 / Duet 2 Maestro

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                                        • zaptaundefined
                                          zapta @dc42
                                          last edited by

                                          My Voron V2.4 is working now with a Mini5+2 WiFi, RRF, no SBC and the Mini5 seems to be a very good fit. Coming from Duet2, it has nice touches such as 30 tolerance (for an Omron probe), external antenna, 12V DC/DC for fans, Neo Pixels outputs, small footprint for 7 drivers configuration, and more.

                                          My only complains is the add on +2 drivers board hanging below the main board with. I would prefer to have a single board with 7 drivers.

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                                          • jumpedwithbothfeetundefined
                                            jumpedwithbothfeet @pixelpieper
                                            last edited by jumpedwithbothfeet

                                            @pixelpieper or anybody else, is there anywhere I can download these files for the 1.1v mount?

                                            #edit. Found semi-hidden in Github! https://github.com/christophmuellerorg/VoronUsers/tree/afterburner_1LC/printer_mods/christophmueller/Voron2-Gallileo-Afterburner-Duet-1LC

                                            Thanks Jim

                                            6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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