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    • fcwiltundefined
      fcwilt @KevinMar
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      @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

      @fcwilt it included M307 commands that were generated from the autotuning and saved using M500

      So we can ignore the ones in your config.g file?

      Frederick

      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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      • KevinMarundefined
        KevinMar @fcwilt
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        @fcwilt They're identical

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        • fcwiltundefined
          fcwilt @KevinMar
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          @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

          @fcwilt They're identical

          So you copied the lines from the config-override.g file and put them into your config.g file?

          I assume you re-booted.

          Frederick

          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          • KevinMarundefined
            KevinMar @fcwilt
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            @fcwilt Affirmative

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            • fcwiltundefined
              fcwilt @KevinMar
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              @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

              @fcwilt Affirmative

              Strange problem you are having.

              You posted a screen shot showing heaters Ex0, Ex1 and Ex3 faulted.

              Were all three heating at the time?

              Frederick

              Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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              • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                DIY-O-Sphere @fcwilt
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                @KevinMar

                M308 S1 P"20.temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 A"Ex0"

                On T0 you use a thermistor but not with the other tools?
                What is your tuning command.

                (UTC+1)

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                • KevinMarundefined
                  KevinMar @fcwilt
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                  @fcwilt Yes, all 3 faulted (nearly) simultaneously, when heating is initiated simultaneously

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                  • KevinMarundefined
                    KevinMar @DIY-O-Sphere
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                    @diy-o-sphere Changed to thermistor (actually changed hardware) just to try troubleshooting

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                    • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                      DIY-O-Sphere @KevinMar
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                      @kevinmar
                      CAN addresses set correctly?

                      (UTC+1)

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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                        @kevinmar did you see my comment about retuning with a silicone sock in place, and my suggestion to reduce the M307 R parameter?

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                        • KevinMarundefined
                          KevinMar @dc42
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                          @dc42 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                          If after re-tuning with the silicone sock on (if necessary) the heaters still fault, you can try reducing the M307 R parameter. Try a 30% reduction.

                          I added the sock, retuned, and it still faulted.

                          I reduced R from 2 to 1.5 and even to 1.0 and it didn't help

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                          • KevinMarundefined
                            KevinMar @DIY-O-Sphere
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                            @diy-o-sphere lol yeah, boards working fine otherwise

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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                              @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                              @dc42 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                              If after re-tuning with the silicone sock on (if necessary) the heaters still fault, you can try reducing the M307 R parameter. Try a 30% reduction.

                              I added the sock, retuned, and it still faulted.

                              I reduced R from 2 to 1.5 and it didn't help

                              Did the R value change much when you added the sock, or was it just the C values that changed?

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                              • fcwiltundefined
                                fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                @fcwilt Yes, all 3 faulted (nearly) simultaneously, when heating is initiated simultaneously

                                If you execute a M570 command from the DWC Console what value does it report?

                                Frederick

                                Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                • KevinMarundefined
                                  KevinMar @dc42
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                                  @dc42 C values changed when tuning with the sock.

                                  R values were a manual change

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                                  • KevinMarundefined
                                    KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                    @fcwilt "Print will be terminated if a heater fault is not reset within 10 minutes"

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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                                      @kevinmar confirm you are running firmware 3.3 on both main board and tool board?

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                      • KevinMarundefined
                                        KevinMar @dc42
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                                        @dc42 yes, 100%. All running 3.3 non beta or anything

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                                        • fcwiltundefined
                                          fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                          @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                          @fcwilt "Print will be terminated if a heater fault is not reset within 10 minutes"

                                          As a test have you commented out the settings for all but one tool heater to see if that makes a difference?

                                          Frederick

                                          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                          • KevinMarundefined
                                            KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                            @fcwilt huh? Just comment out all of the heaters? I have not tried that.

                                            Should I add "M570 H1 P10 T15 S0" to my config?

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