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    • fcwiltundefined
      fcwilt @KevinMar
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      @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

      @dougal1957
      New parameters: M307 H2 R2.050 C309.100:130.600 D6.20 S1.00 V24.3 B0

      Another fault:
      a7bfeaa3-3de6-45da-b0c3-b7227392578c-image.png

      (I had been using the fan to cool the hotend down, so ignore values before 11:00)

      Did you check your config-override.g file to see if it included M307 commands?

      Frederick

      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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      • KevinMarundefined
        KevinMar @fcwilt
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        @fcwilt it included M307 commands that were generated from the autotuning and saved using M500

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        • fcwiltundefined
          fcwilt @KevinMar
          last edited by

          @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

          @fcwilt it included M307 commands that were generated from the autotuning and saved using M500

          So we can ignore the ones in your config.g file?

          Frederick

          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          • KevinMarundefined
            KevinMar @fcwilt
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            @fcwilt They're identical

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            • fcwiltundefined
              fcwilt @KevinMar
              last edited by

              @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

              @fcwilt They're identical

              So you copied the lines from the config-override.g file and put them into your config.g file?

              I assume you re-booted.

              Frederick

              Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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              • KevinMarundefined
                KevinMar @fcwilt
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                @fcwilt Affirmative

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                • fcwiltundefined
                  fcwilt @KevinMar
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                  @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                  @fcwilt Affirmative

                  Strange problem you are having.

                  You posted a screen shot showing heaters Ex0, Ex1 and Ex3 faulted.

                  Were all three heating at the time?

                  Frederick

                  Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                  • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                    DIY-O-Sphere @fcwilt
                    last edited by DIY-O-Sphere

                    @KevinMar

                    M308 S1 P"20.temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 A"Ex0"

                    On T0 you use a thermistor but not with the other tools?
                    What is your tuning command.

                    (UTC+1)

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                    • KevinMarundefined
                      KevinMar @fcwilt
                      last edited by

                      @fcwilt Yes, all 3 faulted (nearly) simultaneously, when heating is initiated simultaneously

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                      • KevinMarundefined
                        KevinMar @DIY-O-Sphere
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                        @diy-o-sphere Changed to thermistor (actually changed hardware) just to try troubleshooting

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                        • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                          DIY-O-Sphere @KevinMar
                          last edited by DIY-O-Sphere

                          @kevinmar
                          CAN addresses set correctly?

                          (UTC+1)

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators @KevinMar
                            last edited by

                            @kevinmar did you see my comment about retuning with a silicone sock in place, and my suggestion to reduce the M307 R parameter?

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                            • KevinMarundefined
                              KevinMar @dc42
                              last edited by KevinMar

                              @dc42 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                              If after re-tuning with the silicone sock on (if necessary) the heaters still fault, you can try reducing the M307 R parameter. Try a 30% reduction.

                              I added the sock, retuned, and it still faulted.

                              I reduced R from 2 to 1.5 and even to 1.0 and it didn't help

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                              • KevinMarundefined
                                KevinMar @DIY-O-Sphere
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                                @diy-o-sphere lol yeah, boards working fine otherwise

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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                                  @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                  @dc42 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                  If after re-tuning with the silicone sock on (if necessary) the heaters still fault, you can try reducing the M307 R parameter. Try a 30% reduction.

                                  I added the sock, retuned, and it still faulted.

                                  I reduced R from 2 to 1.5 and it didn't help

                                  Did the R value change much when you added the sock, or was it just the C values that changed?

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                  • fcwiltundefined
                                    fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                    @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                    @fcwilt Yes, all 3 faulted (nearly) simultaneously, when heating is initiated simultaneously

                                    If you execute a M570 command from the DWC Console what value does it report?

                                    Frederick

                                    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                    • KevinMarundefined
                                      KevinMar @dc42
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                                      @dc42 C values changed when tuning with the sock.

                                      R values were a manual change

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                                      • KevinMarundefined
                                        KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                        @fcwilt "Print will be terminated if a heater fault is not reset within 10 minutes"

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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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                                          @kevinmar confirm you are running firmware 3.3 on both main board and tool board?

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                          • KevinMarundefined
                                            KevinMar @dc42
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                                            @dc42 yes, 100%. All running 3.3 non beta or anything

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