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    • Dougal1957undefined
      Dougal1957 @DIY-O-Sphere
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      @diy-o-sphere said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

      @fcwilt
      Not required for PT1000 on Duet3 and Maestro

      nor on a wifi/ethernet duet 2 board either just not quite as accurate due to the 4k7 sense resistor rather than the 2k2 one

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      • KevinMarundefined
        KevinMar @Dougal1957
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        @dougal1957
        New parameters: M307 H2 R2.050 C309.100:130.600 D6.20 S1.00 V24.3 B0

        Another fault:
        a7bfeaa3-3de6-45da-b0c3-b7227392578c-image.png

        (I had been using the fan to cool the hotend down, so ignore values before 11:00)

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        • fcwiltundefined
          fcwilt @KevinMar
          last edited by

          @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

          @dougal1957
          New parameters: M307 H2 R2.050 C309.100:130.600 D6.20 S1.00 V24.3 B0

          Another fault:
          a7bfeaa3-3de6-45da-b0c3-b7227392578c-image.png

          (I had been using the fan to cool the hotend down, so ignore values before 11:00)

          Did you check your config-override.g file to see if it included M307 commands?

          Frederick

          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          • KevinMarundefined
            KevinMar @fcwilt
            last edited by

            @fcwilt it included M307 commands that were generated from the autotuning and saved using M500

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            • fcwiltundefined
              fcwilt @KevinMar
              last edited by

              @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

              @fcwilt it included M307 commands that were generated from the autotuning and saved using M500

              So we can ignore the ones in your config.g file?

              Frederick

              Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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              • KevinMarundefined
                KevinMar @fcwilt
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                @fcwilt They're identical

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                • fcwiltundefined
                  fcwilt @KevinMar
                  last edited by

                  @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                  @fcwilt They're identical

                  So you copied the lines from the config-override.g file and put them into your config.g file?

                  I assume you re-booted.

                  Frederick

                  Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                  • KevinMarundefined
                    KevinMar @fcwilt
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                    @fcwilt Affirmative

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                    • fcwiltundefined
                      fcwilt @KevinMar
                      last edited by

                      @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                      @fcwilt Affirmative

                      Strange problem you are having.

                      You posted a screen shot showing heaters Ex0, Ex1 and Ex3 faulted.

                      Were all three heating at the time?

                      Frederick

                      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                      • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                        DIY-O-Sphere @fcwilt
                        last edited by DIY-O-Sphere

                        @KevinMar

                        M308 S1 P"20.temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 A"Ex0"

                        On T0 you use a thermistor but not with the other tools?
                        What is your tuning command.

                        (UTC+1)

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                        • KevinMarundefined
                          KevinMar @fcwilt
                          last edited by

                          @fcwilt Yes, all 3 faulted (nearly) simultaneously, when heating is initiated simultaneously

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                          • KevinMarundefined
                            KevinMar @DIY-O-Sphere
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                            @diy-o-sphere Changed to thermistor (actually changed hardware) just to try troubleshooting

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                            • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                              DIY-O-Sphere @KevinMar
                              last edited by DIY-O-Sphere

                              @kevinmar
                              CAN addresses set correctly?

                              (UTC+1)

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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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                                @kevinmar did you see my comment about retuning with a silicone sock in place, and my suggestion to reduce the M307 R parameter?

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                • KevinMarundefined
                                  KevinMar @dc42
                                  last edited by KevinMar

                                  @dc42 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                  If after re-tuning with the silicone sock on (if necessary) the heaters still fault, you can try reducing the M307 R parameter. Try a 30% reduction.

                                  I added the sock, retuned, and it still faulted.

                                  I reduced R from 2 to 1.5 and even to 1.0 and it didn't help

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                                  • KevinMarundefined
                                    KevinMar @DIY-O-Sphere
                                    last edited by

                                    @diy-o-sphere lol yeah, boards working fine otherwise

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators @KevinMar
                                      last edited by

                                      @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                      @dc42 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                      If after re-tuning with the silicone sock on (if necessary) the heaters still fault, you can try reducing the M307 R parameter. Try a 30% reduction.

                                      I added the sock, retuned, and it still faulted.

                                      I reduced R from 2 to 1.5 and it didn't help

                                      Did the R value change much when you added the sock, or was it just the C values that changed?

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                      • fcwiltundefined
                                        fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                        @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                        @fcwilt Yes, all 3 faulted (nearly) simultaneously, when heating is initiated simultaneously

                                        If you execute a M570 command from the DWC Console what value does it report?

                                        Frederick

                                        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                        • KevinMarundefined
                                          KevinMar @dc42
                                          last edited by

                                          @dc42 C values changed when tuning with the sock.

                                          R values were a manual change

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                                          • KevinMarundefined
                                            KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                            @fcwilt "Print will be terminated if a heater fault is not reset within 10 minutes"

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