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    • fcwiltundefined
      fcwilt @KevinMar
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      @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

      @fcwilt They're identical

      So you copied the lines from the config-override.g file and put them into your config.g file?

      I assume you re-booted.

      Frederick

      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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      • KevinMarundefined
        KevinMar @fcwilt
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        @fcwilt Affirmative

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        • fcwiltundefined
          fcwilt @KevinMar
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          @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

          @fcwilt Affirmative

          Strange problem you are having.

          You posted a screen shot showing heaters Ex0, Ex1 and Ex3 faulted.

          Were all three heating at the time?

          Frederick

          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
            DIY-O-Sphere @fcwilt
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            @KevinMar

            M308 S1 P"20.temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 A"Ex0"

            On T0 you use a thermistor but not with the other tools?
            What is your tuning command.

            (UTC+1)

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            • KevinMarundefined
              KevinMar @fcwilt
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              @fcwilt Yes, all 3 faulted (nearly) simultaneously, when heating is initiated simultaneously

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              • KevinMarundefined
                KevinMar @DIY-O-Sphere
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                @diy-o-sphere Changed to thermistor (actually changed hardware) just to try troubleshooting

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                • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                  DIY-O-Sphere @KevinMar
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                  @kevinmar
                  CAN addresses set correctly?

                  (UTC+1)

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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                    @kevinmar did you see my comment about retuning with a silicone sock in place, and my suggestion to reduce the M307 R parameter?

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                    • KevinMarundefined
                      KevinMar @dc42
                      last edited by KevinMar

                      @dc42 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                      If after re-tuning with the silicone sock on (if necessary) the heaters still fault, you can try reducing the M307 R parameter. Try a 30% reduction.

                      I added the sock, retuned, and it still faulted.

                      I reduced R from 2 to 1.5 and even to 1.0 and it didn't help

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                      • KevinMarundefined
                        KevinMar @DIY-O-Sphere
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                        @diy-o-sphere lol yeah, boards working fine otherwise

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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                          @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                          @dc42 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                          If after re-tuning with the silicone sock on (if necessary) the heaters still fault, you can try reducing the M307 R parameter. Try a 30% reduction.

                          I added the sock, retuned, and it still faulted.

                          I reduced R from 2 to 1.5 and it didn't help

                          Did the R value change much when you added the sock, or was it just the C values that changed?

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                          • fcwiltundefined
                            fcwilt @KevinMar
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                            @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                            @fcwilt Yes, all 3 faulted (nearly) simultaneously, when heating is initiated simultaneously

                            If you execute a M570 command from the DWC Console what value does it report?

                            Frederick

                            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                            • KevinMarundefined
                              KevinMar @dc42
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                              @dc42 C values changed when tuning with the sock.

                              R values were a manual change

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                              • KevinMarundefined
                                KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                @fcwilt "Print will be terminated if a heater fault is not reset within 10 minutes"

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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                                  @kevinmar confirm you are running firmware 3.3 on both main board and tool board?

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                  • KevinMarundefined
                                    KevinMar @dc42
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                                    @dc42 yes, 100%. All running 3.3 non beta or anything

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                                    • fcwiltundefined
                                      fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                      @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                      @fcwilt "Print will be terminated if a heater fault is not reset within 10 minutes"

                                      As a test have you commented out the settings for all but one tool heater to see if that makes a difference?

                                      Frederick

                                      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                      • KevinMarundefined
                                        KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                        @fcwilt huh? Just comment out all of the heaters? I have not tried that.

                                        Should I add "M570 H1 P10 T15 S0" to my config?

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                                        • KevinMarundefined
                                          KevinMar
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                                          The thing that keeps confusing me is that this is a very standard-issue setup. Running all standard E3D + Duet hardware, and running a stable release of the firmware.

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                                          • fcwiltundefined
                                            fcwilt @KevinMar
                                            last edited by fcwilt

                                            @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                            @fcwilt huh? Just comment out all of the heaters? I have not tried that.

                                            Should I add "M570 H1 P10 T15 S0" to my config?

                                            I was wondering if the same problem would occur you if you only had one extruder heater configured.

                                            As to the M570 I was working with out of date documentation.

                                            It turns out with current firmware it appears you have to have a H parameter to set/report on a given heater.

                                            Frederick

                                            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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