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    • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
      DIY-O-Sphere @fcwilt
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      @fcwilt
      Not required for PT1000 on Duet3 and Maestro

      (UTC+1)

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      • Dougal1957undefined
        Dougal1957 @DIY-O-Sphere
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        @diy-o-sphere said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

        @fcwilt
        Not required for PT1000 on Duet3 and Maestro

        nor on a wifi/ethernet duet 2 board either just not quite as accurate due to the 4k7 sense resistor rather than the 2k2 one

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        • KevinMarundefined
          KevinMar @Dougal1957
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          @dougal1957
          New parameters: M307 H2 R2.050 C309.100:130.600 D6.20 S1.00 V24.3 B0

          Another fault:
          a7bfeaa3-3de6-45da-b0c3-b7227392578c-image.png

          (I had been using the fan to cool the hotend down, so ignore values before 11:00)

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          • fcwiltundefined
            fcwilt @KevinMar
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            @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

            @dougal1957
            New parameters: M307 H2 R2.050 C309.100:130.600 D6.20 S1.00 V24.3 B0

            Another fault:
            a7bfeaa3-3de6-45da-b0c3-b7227392578c-image.png

            (I had been using the fan to cool the hotend down, so ignore values before 11:00)

            Did you check your config-override.g file to see if it included M307 commands?

            Frederick

            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            • KevinMarundefined
              KevinMar @fcwilt
              last edited by

              @fcwilt it included M307 commands that were generated from the autotuning and saved using M500

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              • fcwiltundefined
                fcwilt @KevinMar
                last edited by

                @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                @fcwilt it included M307 commands that were generated from the autotuning and saved using M500

                So we can ignore the ones in your config.g file?

                Frederick

                Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                • KevinMarundefined
                  KevinMar @fcwilt
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                  @fcwilt They're identical

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                  • fcwiltundefined
                    fcwilt @KevinMar
                    last edited by

                    @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                    @fcwilt They're identical

                    So you copied the lines from the config-override.g file and put them into your config.g file?

                    I assume you re-booted.

                    Frederick

                    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                    • KevinMarundefined
                      KevinMar @fcwilt
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                      @fcwilt Affirmative

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt @KevinMar
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                        @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                        @fcwilt Affirmative

                        Strange problem you are having.

                        You posted a screen shot showing heaters Ex0, Ex1 and Ex3 faulted.

                        Were all three heating at the time?

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                          DIY-O-Sphere @fcwilt
                          last edited by DIY-O-Sphere

                          @KevinMar

                          M308 S1 P"20.temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 A"Ex0"

                          On T0 you use a thermistor but not with the other tools?
                          What is your tuning command.

                          (UTC+1)

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                          • KevinMarundefined
                            KevinMar @fcwilt
                            last edited by

                            @fcwilt Yes, all 3 faulted (nearly) simultaneously, when heating is initiated simultaneously

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                            • KevinMarundefined
                              KevinMar @DIY-O-Sphere
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                              @diy-o-sphere Changed to thermistor (actually changed hardware) just to try troubleshooting

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                              • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                                DIY-O-Sphere @KevinMar
                                last edited by DIY-O-Sphere

                                @kevinmar
                                CAN addresses set correctly?

                                (UTC+1)

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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                                  @kevinmar did you see my comment about retuning with a silicone sock in place, and my suggestion to reduce the M307 R parameter?

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                  • KevinMarundefined
                                    KevinMar @dc42
                                    last edited by KevinMar

                                    @dc42 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                    If after re-tuning with the silicone sock on (if necessary) the heaters still fault, you can try reducing the M307 R parameter. Try a 30% reduction.

                                    I added the sock, retuned, and it still faulted.

                                    I reduced R from 2 to 1.5 and even to 1.0 and it didn't help

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                                    • KevinMarundefined
                                      KevinMar @DIY-O-Sphere
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                                      @diy-o-sphere lol yeah, boards working fine otherwise

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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                                        @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                        @dc42 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                        If after re-tuning with the silicone sock on (if necessary) the heaters still fault, you can try reducing the M307 R parameter. Try a 30% reduction.

                                        I added the sock, retuned, and it still faulted.

                                        I reduced R from 2 to 1.5 and it didn't help

                                        Did the R value change much when you added the sock, or was it just the C values that changed?

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                        • fcwiltundefined
                                          fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                          @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                          @fcwilt Yes, all 3 faulted (nearly) simultaneously, when heating is initiated simultaneously

                                          If you execute a M570 command from the DWC Console what value does it report?

                                          Frederick

                                          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                          • KevinMarundefined
                                            KevinMar @dc42
                                            last edited by

                                            @dc42 C values changed when tuning with the sock.

                                            R values were a manual change

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