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    oliof @Jbourns
    last edited by 10 Oct 2021, 20:56

    @jbourns if you use Cura, disable acceleration control. It uses mm/sec for acceleration and speed as Marlon does, but RepRapFirmware uses mm/min.

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      Jbourns @oliof
      last edited by 10 Oct 2021, 21:00

      @oliof Im using prusa slicer!Capture.PNG

      this is what i have in the speed settings.

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        jens55
        last edited by 10 Oct 2021, 21:02

        How do you test maximum speed? do you just run a model? If you run a model, what are the slicer settings for max speed, acceleration and jerk.

        You could take the slicer variable out of the equation and just use a quick hand written macro such as :
        G1 X000 Y000 F50000
        G1 X000 Y300
        G1 X300 Y300
        G1 X300 Y000

        Adjust the F parameter to suit what you want the machine to do
        Adjust the coordinates based on what your printer bed size is.

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          Jbourns @jens55
          last edited by Jbourns 10 Oct 2021, 21:32 10 Oct 2021, 21:06

          @jens55 By printing things usually dialing up with macros. But nothing is increasing the speed at all, it'll go slower.
          right now i dont care for setting the proper speeds. I just want to go faster than 25mm/s 2000% speed should have done something.

          Should the print speed in dwc override what the slicer?

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            engikeneer @Jbourns
            last edited by 10 Oct 2021, 21:43

            @jbourns what firmware flavour do you have set in PrusaSlicer? Should be Reprap.
            If you leave it in Marlin, it puts a bunch of max speed commands in the start code in the Marlin units, so you end up 60x too slow

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              Jbourns @engikeneer
              last edited by 10 Oct 2021, 21:51

              @engikeneer Its set to reprap/sprinter

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                PaulHew
                last edited by 10 Oct 2021, 23:27

                How big and what are you trying to print?
                If it is small and complex it might not be able to get up to speed.
                When I print Pi cases my infill is going at 130mm/s. 3 perim, 3 top and bottom.

                Got an stl?

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                Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

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                  Jbourns @PaulHew
                  last edited by Jbourns 10 Oct 2021, 23:46 10 Oct 2021, 23:43

                  @paulhew Its 38 x 45mm. I just don' t get why it wont increase in speed at all from DWC. I've always been able to crank it up to suit my needs. Now I'm stuck with a 6 hour print when it should have been done in 20min

                  fixture.stl

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                    PaulHew @Jbourns
                    last edited by 10 Oct 2021, 23:49

                    @jbourns This is my speeds config for a RailCore

                    M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                    ;
                    M92 X200.00 Y200.00 ; set steps per mm
                    M92 Z1600 ; set steps per mm Z Axis
                    M92 E412 ; set steps per mm Extruder
                    ;
                    M566 X600.00 Y600.00 Z200.00 E3600.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                    M203 X18000.00 Y18000.00 Z900.00 E3600.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                    M201 X1500.00 Y1500.00 Z250.00 E1500.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                    M906 X1280 Y1280 Z1220 E700 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent

                    My E speeds are higher.
                    I run a BMG Extruder with a mosquito hotend.

                    I will give you part a run later, nearly 1am here in the UK.

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                      PaulHew
                      last edited by 10 Oct 2021, 23:54

                      Also, in PS, filament tab, what is your max volumetric speed?
                      That can play a major part in speed.

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                      Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

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                        Jbourns @PaulHew
                        last edited by 10 Oct 2021, 23:55

                        @paulhew I'll give those a go, Thanks for the help. I'll be testing them in the next hour once this part is printed.

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                          PaulHew @Jbourns
                          last edited by 10 Oct 2021, 23:56

                          @jbourns 👍

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                            Jbourns @PaulHew
                            last edited by 10 Oct 2021, 23:57

                            @paulhew It's at 0 which is default so I assume that's off?

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                              PaulHew @Jbourns
                              last edited by 11 Oct 2021, 00:05

                              @jbourns I found this for calculating Volumetric speed.
                              https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZHSRzTm2AR_sXnLSSOq2NSmx0UYtF5bJKHUSFWiDscA/edit#gid=0

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                              Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

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                                Jbourns @PaulHew
                                last edited by 11 Oct 2021, 00:17

                                @paulhew 10mm/3 seems like a good middle ground for the volcano

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                                  Jbourns @PaulHew
                                  last edited by 11 Oct 2021, 01:34

                                  @paulhew The only explanation is that im a daft prick. I think i fugged up my E speeds ands acceleration at some point. Doesn't explain why I couldn't just override it.
                                  https://youtu.be/tr7fGtmQUk8

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                                    dc42 administrators
                                    last edited by 11 Oct 2021, 06:27

                                    @jbourns the speed multiplier will override the speeds requested in the F parameter of G1/2/3/4 commands, but not the machine speed limits set by M203.

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                                      alankilian @Jbourns
                                      last edited by 11 Oct 2021, 14:04

                                      @jbourns YEAH!!!

                                      Thanks for keeping us in the loop and letting us know when you figured it out.

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                                        Jbourns
                                        last edited by 11 Oct 2021, 23:06

                                        It was either volumetric flow in prusa slicer or max speed in the config

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                                          JoergS5 @Jbourns
                                          last edited by 12 Oct 2021, 06:52

                                          @jbourns trying a different slicer and then testing 2000% let's you decide whether the problem is in the slicer region or in the config/dwc region.

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