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    • tecnoundefined
      tecno
      last edited by

      Home all works OK but G0 X-5 goes wrong direction. How to fix this?

      M569 P0 S0
      M569 P1 S1
      M569 P2 S1
      M569 P3 S1                                 
      M584 X3 Y2 Z1 E0
      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                       ; configure microstepping with interpolation   X16 Y16 Z16
      M92 X40.00 Y40.00 Z40.00 E663.00              ; set steps per mm
      M566 X120.00 Y120.00 Z120.00 E1200.00      	  ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
      M203 X800.00 Y800.00 Z800.00 E1200.00         ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
      M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z1000.00 E1000.00      ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
      M906 X1500 Y1500 Z1500 E800 I30               ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
      M84 S30                                       ; Set idle timeout
      
      
      ; Axis Limits
      M208 Z0 S1                                    ; set minimum Z
      
      ; Endstops
      M574 X2 S1 P"40.io1.in"                      ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on X via pin io0.in
      M574 Y2 S1 P"41.io1.in"                      ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Y via pin io1.in
      M574 Z2 S1 P"42.io1.in"                      ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Z via pin io2.in
      
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        JoergS5 @tecno
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        • droftartsundefined
          droftarts administrators @tecno
          last edited by

          @tecno if it’s a delta, probably X and Y motors are flipped in M584. Don’t forget to swap the endstop assignments too!

          Ian

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          • tecnoundefined
            tecno @droftarts
            last edited by

            @droftarts

            Yes it is a Delta.

            G0 X-5 X should go down not up. It is X moving not Y so I dont see flipping X/Y in M584 do anything good.

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            • droftartsundefined
              droftarts administrators @tecno
              last edited by

              @tecno check the individual motor moves for delta here: https://docs.duet3d.com/User_manual/Connecting_hardware/Motors_testing#checking-movement-direction

              Ian

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              • tecnoundefined
                tecno @droftarts
                last edited by

                @droftarts said in Motors move wrong way:

                @tecno check the individual motor moves for delta here: https://docs.duet3d.com/User_manual/Connecting_hardware/Motors_testing#checking-movement-direction

                Ian

                Guess what, all axis move as commanded in the test BUT in DWC it is the opposite.

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                • Dougal1957undefined
                  Dougal1957
                  last edited by Dougal1957

                  @tecno with a simple diagram can you show us the motor positions when looking down on the delta from above similar to

                  Z
                  

                  X Y.

                  Also post your full Config.g

                  Doug

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                  • tecnoundefined
                    tecno @Dougal1957
                    last edited by

                    @dougal1957

                    ; Configuration file for Duet 3 Mini 5+ (firmware version 3.3)
                    ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                    ;
                    ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.3.10 on Tue May 31 2022 17:03:35 GMT+0200 (centraleuropeisk sommartid)
                    
                    ; General preferences
                    M575 P1 S0 B57600                             ; enable support for PanelDue
                    G90                                           ; send absolute coordinates...
                    M83                                           ; ...but relative extruder moves
                    M550 P"BigDelta"                              ; set printer name
                    M665 R300 L615 B275 H570                      ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
                    M666 X0 Y0 Z0                                 ; put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them
                    M669 S1 T1  								  ; kinematics linear delta
                    M564 H0 S0									  ; allow axis movement not homed
                    
                    ; Wait a moment for the CAN expansion boards to start
                    G4 S2
                    
                    ; Network
                    M551 P"bengt"                                 ; set password
                    M552 P192.168.1.124 S1                        ; enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP
                    M586 P0 S1                                    ; enable HTTP
                    M586 P1 S1                                    ; enable FTP
                    M586 P2 S1                                    ; enable Telnet
                    
                    ; Drives
                    ;M569 P40.0 S0 R1  T10:10:10:10                ; physical drive 121.0 goes forwards
                    ;M569 P41.0 S0 R1  T10:10:10:10                ; physical drive 122.0 goes forwards
                    ;M569 P42.0 S0 R1  T10:10:10:10                ; physical drive 123.0 goes forwards
                    ;M584 X40.0 Y41.0 Z42.0 E0.0                   ; set drive mapping
                    M569 P0 S0
                    M569 P1 S1
                    M569 P2 S1
                    M569 P3 S1                                 
                    M584 X3 Y2 Z1 E0
                    M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                       			  ; configure microstepping with interpolation   X16 Y16 Z16
                    M92 X40.00 Y40.00 Z40.00 E663.00              ; set steps per mm
                    M566 X120.00 Y120.00 Z120.00 E1200.00      ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                    M203 X800.00 Y800.00 Z800.00 E1200.00   ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                    M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z1000.00 E1000.00      ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                    M906 X1500 Y1500 Z1500 E800 I30               ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                    M84 S30                                       ; Set idle timeout
                    
                    
                    ; Axis Limits
                    M208 Z0 S1                                    ; set minimum Z
                    
                    ; Endstops
                    M574 X2 S1 P"40.io1.in"                      ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on X via pin io0.in
                    M574 Y2 S1 P"41.io1.in"                      ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Y via pin io1.in
                    M574 Z2 S1 P"42.io1.in"                      ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Z via pin io2.in
                    
                    
                    ; Z-Probe
                    M558 P5 R0.4 C"io3.in+io4.out" H5 F1200 T6000 ; set Z probe type to effector and the dive height + speeds
                    G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z2.5                           ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                    M557 R85 S20                                  ; define mesh grid
                    
                    ; Heaters
                    M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138  ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
                    M950 H0 C"out0" T0                            ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
                    M307 H0 B1 S1.00                              ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                    M140 H0                                       ; map heated bed to heater 0
                    M143 H0 S120                                  ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                    M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138  ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp1
                    M950 H1 C"out1" T1                            ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
                    M307 H1 B0 S1.00                              ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                    M143 H1 S280                                  ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                    
                    ; Fans
                    M950 F0 C"out5" Q500                          ; create fan 0 on pin out3 and set its frequency
                    M106 P0 S0 H-1                                ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                    M950 F1 C"out4" Q500                          ; create fan 1 on pin out4 and set its frequency
                    M106 P1 S1 H1 T45                             ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                    
                    ; Tools
                    M563 P1 D0 H1 F0                              ; define tool 1
                    G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0                               ; set tool 1 axis offsets
                    G10 P1 R0 S0                                  ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                    
                    ; Custom settings are not defined
                    
                    ; Miscellaneous
                    ;M501                                          ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                    T1
                    
                    

                    Z back
                    X left front
                    Y right front

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                    • Dougal1957undefined
                      Dougal1957 @tecno
                      last edited by

                      @tecno In that case I think your M584 is in the wrong sequence as George said above try

                      M584 X1 Y2 Z3 E0 assuming that the motors are connected to X Y and Z ports in that order.

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                      • tecnoundefined
                        tecno @Dougal1957
                        last edited by tecno

                        @dougal1957

                        Sorry but there is no reason to have X on port 1 !

                        Anyhow I did that and edit config and switched motor wires = Still same problem

                        Will try to switch motor wires on one winding to see if it helps.

                        //edit No it did not

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                        • Dougal1957undefined
                          Dougal1957 @tecno
                          last edited by Dougal1957

                          @tecno said in Motors move wrong way:

                          @dougal1957

                          Sorry but there is no reason to have X on port 1 !

                          Anyhow I did that and edit config and switched motor wires = Still same problem

                          Will try to switch motor wires on one winding to see if it helps.

                          //edit No it did not

                          Your config order of the M569 P1 to P3 suggests that the motors are connected to ports 1 2 and 3 in XYZ order tho
                          Maybe reverse the order of them may solve your issue because your motors all move in the correct way when individually commanded it has to be a config issue!

                          Argh sorry that order I don't think matters but I think it is still worth trying.

                          Just looked up M584 and wonder if this maybe your issue.```
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                          • oliofundefined
                            oliof @tecno
                            last edited by

                            @tecno said in Motors move wrong way:

                            Anyhow I did that and edit config and switched motor wires = Still same problem

                            if you switch the configuration and the wiring at the same time, the problem will persist. Do one or the other.

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                            • Dougal1957undefined
                              Dougal1957
                              last edited by

                              Also remember that in Delta kinematics all 3 axis have to move for any movement in the cartesian plane.

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                              • tecnoundefined
                                tecno @Dougal1957
                                last edited by

                                @dougal1957

                                I have tried all possibly settings

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                                • tecnoundefined
                                  tecno @Dougal1957
                                  last edited by tecno

                                  @dougal1957

                                  So M584 line has to be X0 Y1 Z2 and E4 or E5 or just E4 no x/y/z?

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                                  • tecnoundefined
                                    tecno @tecno
                                    last edited by

                                    I feel like fool now 😞

                                    Been looking at the carriage motion not head motion = NOOB with Delta 😉

                                    All appears to move as it should.

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                                    • Dougal1957undefined
                                      Dougal1957 @tecno
                                      last edited by

                                      @tecno said in Motors move wrong way:

                                      @dougal1957

                                      So M584 line has to be X0 Y1 Z2 and E4 or E5 or just E4 no x/y/z?

                                      I am just about to go out but I will get you a copy of my Config.g

                                      
                                      ; General preferences
                                      M575 P1 S1 B57600                                   ; enable support for PanelDue
                                      G90                                                 ; send absolute coordinates...
                                      M83                                                 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                      M550 P"Delta"                                       ; set printer name
                                      M665 R239.403 L450.7 B175 H401                      ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
                                      M666 X0 Y0 Z0                                       ; put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them
                                      
                                      ; Network
                                      M552 S1                                             ; enable network
                                      M586 P0 S1                                          ; enable HTTP
                                      M586 P1 S1                                          ; enable FTP
                                      M586 P2 S0                                          ; disable Telnet
                                      
                                      ; Drives
                                      M569 P0 S1                                          ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
                                      M569 P1 S1                                          ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
                                      M569 P2 S1                                          ; physical drive 2 goes forwards
                                      M569 P3 S1                                          ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
                                      M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3                                    ; set drive mapping
                                      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                             ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                                      M92 X200.00 Y200.00 Z200.00 E2500.00                ; set steps per mm
                                      M566 X54000.00 Y54000.00 Z54000.00 E2400.00         ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                      M203 X1080000.00 Y1080000.00 Z1080000.00 E144000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                      M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z1000.00 E120.00             ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                      M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E500 I30                     ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                      M84 S30                                             ; Set idle timeout
                                      
                                      ; Axis Limits
                                      M208 Z0 S1                                          ; set minimum Z
                                      
                                      ; Endstops
                                      M574 X2 S1 P"xstop"                                 ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on X via pin xstop
                                      M574 Y2 S1 P"ystop"                                 ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Y via pin ystop
                                      M574 Z2 S1 P"zstop"                                 ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Z via pin zstop
                                      
                                      ; Z-Probe
                                      M558 P5 R0.4 C"zprobe.in+zprobe.mod" H5 F1200 T6000 ; set Z probe type to effector and the dive height + speeds
                                      G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z0.1                                 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                      M557 R85 S20                                        ; define mesh grid
                                      
                                      ; Heaters
                                      M308 S0 P"spi.cs2" Y"rtd-max31865" F50
                                      ;M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138      ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                                      M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                               ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                                      M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                    ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                                      M140 H0                                             ; map heated bed to heater 0
                                      M143 H0 S75                                         ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 75C
                                      M308 S1 P"spi.cs1" Y"rtd-max31865" F50
                                      ;M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138       ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                                      M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                                ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                                      M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                    ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                                      M143 H1 S280                                        ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                                      
                                      ; Fans
                                      M950 F0 C"fan2" Q500                                ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                                      M106 P0 S0 H-1                                      ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                      M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500                                ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                                      M106 P1 S1 H1 T45                                   ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                      
                                      ; Tools
                                      M563 P0 D0 H1 F2                                    ; define tool 0
                                      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                     ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                      G10 P0 R0 S0                                        ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                                      
                                      ; Custom settings are not defined
                                      
                                      ; Miscellaneous
                                      M501                                                ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                                      T0                                                  ; select first tool
                                      
                                      
                                      
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