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    • alankilianundefined
      alankilian @chrishamm
      last edited by

      @chrishamm Yeah, I bought it a few years ago and now they want another US$59 to upgrade?

      Hard-pass.

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      • Alex.crundefined
        Alex.cr
        last edited by

        It was worth the cost a few years back. I will have to wait and see a few reviews before considering upgrading. I have a hard time putting my money towards a company that has had almost no interaction with the community for years (that's at least my perception).

        Maybe it will be really good and worth it, but PrusaSlicer/SuperSlicer and Cura are so good right now, its going to be an uphill battle for Simplify3D.

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        • R4ffersundefined
          R4ffers @alankilian
          last edited by

          @alankilian it almost seems like a calculated move to wait until all new licenses purchased were over 12 months old. Nobody then gets a free upgrade.

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          • tecnoundefined
            tecno @R4ffers
            last edited by

            Got my refund

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            • alankilianundefined
              alankilian @tecno
              last edited by

              It's really too bad, my machine came with mattercontrol (or something like that) which I couldn't get good prints with so I bought Simplify3D and it's been an excellent slicer even without any updates.

              I do like the way I can very easily switch settings at a particular layer so if my model needs some settings on the lower half and different settings on the upper half I can do that without difficulty.

              It's also the only slicer I got to do dual-extrusion through a single extruder although honestly I didn't try very hard with others.

              I don't know which slicer to start experimenting with. I'll probably just keep using Simplify until it can't do something I need and then start the learning curve on something else.

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator @alankilian
                last edited by Phaedrux

                @alankilian said in SIMPLIFY 3D V 5 IS NOW OUT:

                I do like the way I can very easily switch settings at a particular layer so if my model needs some settings on the lower half and different settings on the upper half I can do that without difficulty.

                Cura has pretty good options for this. There's a post processing menu item that you can change certain things at a layer/height. And then there are modifier meshes which are far far more powerful and aren't limited to layer heights. Load another model shape and wherever it superimposes over the main model you can define custom settings.

                Prusa slicer can do similar with meshes as well.

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                • R4ffersundefined
                  R4ffers
                  last edited by

                  Prusa slicer and super slicer are my main go to slicer

                  Mb6hc + 3hc + 1lc on Voron V2.4, Mini 5+ exp 2+ on Vzbot 235 AWD, Duet 2 wifi on Ox CNC and Mini 5+ on Millennium Milo v1.5 mini mill.

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                  • GeneRisiundefined
                    GeneRisi
                    last edited by GeneRisi

                    Does anyone have a good reason to upgrade to v5?

                    I've been using Simplify3d for years and have been hoping that development was ongoing so I could upgrade. Having looked briefly at both Cura and PrussiaSlicer I can't see any advantage to what Simplify3d v5 is offering. Getting good results from a slicer takes experience gained over time so I haven't switched/upgraded yet.

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                    • Proschi3Dundefined
                      Proschi3D @GeneRisi
                      last edited by Proschi3D

                      I'm not a fan of paying double and triple, but the quality of my printed parts with Simplify V 5 convinces me.
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                      0,6 mm nozzle
                      The quality is awesome

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                      • sebkritikelundefined
                        sebkritikel @Proschi3D
                        last edited by

                        @Proschi78 Can you upload the GCODE file for the vase print? Certainly looks great, but I can't imaging they're doing anything special in that print file.

                        Better yet, upload a comparison GCODE file from another slicer (where you attempt to match the settings as closely as possible).

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                        • Proschi3Dundefined
                          Proschi3D @sebkritikel
                          last edited by Proschi3D

                          once simplify v5 and prusa slicer

                          Nerys_Vase_2 prusa.gcode
                          Nerys_Vase_2 (1).gcode

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                          • sebkritikelundefined
                            sebkritikel @Proschi3D
                            last edited by

                            @Proschi78 Thank you! To be clear, I'm not digging on S3D, I just nerd out and dig into whats going on 'behind the scenes'.

                            A couple of interesting things stick out - S3D is varying both the print speed/feedrate and extrusion amount along the model's height.

                            From bottom to top, the S3D print speed varies from 6.0mm/s -> 9.1mm/s -> 2.8mm/s -> 4.4mm/s - this is likely to achieve a minimum layer time. In contrast, PrusaSlicer prints at a consistent 15mm/s (difference in speed is also evident from print duration).
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                            Whats more interesting is the variation in extrusion amount occurring in S3D. PrusaSlicer is again consistent, but S3D increases the extrusion amount during the more vertical sections of the vase. There doesn't seem to be varying layer heights during this vase-mode print?
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                            Thanks for sharing!

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                            • Proschi3Dundefined
                              Proschi3D @sebkritikel
                              last edited by

                              @sebkritikel The constant speed of the Prusa slicer Fürth means that the layers melt at small diameters. You can also see a seam with the Prusa slicer, which does not exist with simplify, since the print does not pause when infeed in z

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                              • sebkritikelundefined
                                sebkritikel @Proschi3D
                                last edited by sebkritikel

                                @Proschi78 Oh wow, I see what you mean in PS. Weird!
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                                • Proschi3Dundefined
                                  Proschi3D @sebkritikel
                                  last edited by

                                  @sebkritikel It also seems to me that the outer contour of PS is somewhat distorted. With s3d, each layer lies perfectly on top of the other

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                                  • Proschi3Dundefined
                                    Proschi3D @sebkritikel
                                    last edited by

                                    @sebkritikel What software are you using to display the gcode?

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                                    • sebkritikelundefined
                                      sebkritikel @Proschi3D
                                      last edited by

                                      @Proschi78 said in SIMPLIFY 3D V 5 IS NOW OUT:

                                      @sebkritikel What software are you using to display the gcode?

                                      I'm using Craftware
                                      https://craftbot.com/craftware

                                      Can open GCODE files. I'm using an older version, but the newer one is still quite similar.

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                                      • rainyundefined
                                        rainy
                                        last edited by rainy

                                        Going through the s3d v5 feature list (https://www.simplify3d.com/products/simplify3d-software/whats-new/version-5-0/)
                                        prusaslicer already has:

                                        • adaptive layer height
                                        • 3d infill patterns
                                        • z seam hiding (it's not as automatic as s3d but gives you more control)
                                        • support painting; it seems like s3d's new supports are trying to catch up to this; PS does it really well imo
                                        • short perimeter speed reduction
                                        • small feature reinforcement
                                        • XY size compensation, though s3d has a special setting for interior holes (not sure why you'd want this though)
                                        • flow rate control (it took me a minute to figure out what they're saying, but it's limiting speed by the max extruder flow rate)
                                        • live updating of model geometry after file update
                                        • 3dconnexion mouse
                                        • automatic mesh repair

                                        unique things from the s3d update:

                                        • the "automate common changes" feature looks really useful
                                        • dynamic infill might be nice in some scenarios
                                        • new gui looks nice?

                                        Maybe there are more features they haven't mentioned in that page, but the main list doesn't promote confidence. S3D used to be way ahead of the competition; now it feels like it's trying to catch up.

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                                        • Proschi3Dundefined
                                          Proschi3D @rainy
                                          last edited by

                                          @rainy What is decisive for me is what is on the table after printing and with what quality. I don't need painting or other gimmicks if the print result is not good. Anyway, I'm very satisfied with s3d.

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                                          • Joelundefined
                                            Joel
                                            last edited by Joel

                                            I haven't tried to print anything with V5 yet.

                                            Some of the changes are they moved things around in the UI, they did get rid of the fw config stuff, but for the most part I don't notice a loss. One annoying thing is it is now a single instance license whereas 4.x was 2. Annoying, but does not affect me much. Auto supports seem to work better.

                                            This weekend I will probably try and print something with it.

                                            Worth the cost, eh, for me it just fell into the category of keeping SW up to date.

                                            I did try Superslicer and Cura, I still like Simplify3d better despite its faults. The main thing I dislike is its over use of the windows registry for things that should be in local config files.

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