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    • deckingmanundefined
      deckingman @gnydick
      last edited by

      @gnydick I'll second that. Lead screws should only provide lift, guides should only guide. I had a bit of an accident a few months ago and bent one of the lead screws. I've never got around to straightening or replacing it because it prints perfectly. The screw might wobble a bit, but one rotation still gives me exactly 1mm of linear movement.

      Ian
      https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
      https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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      • gnydickundefined
        gnydick @deckingman
        last edited by

        @deckingman I had the exact same thing happen!!

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        • claustroundefined
          claustro
          last edited by

          Thank you for all your suggestions.
          This is what come out .
          I moved the thrust bearing on the top so it can discharge the weight of the bed on the plastic structure.
          Below I installed the ball bearing that doesn't have to manage weight.
          I am still waiting for the rigid coupler.

          what do you think
          ?
          2_1559396358318_20190601_151644 (Piccola).jpg 1_1559396358318_20190601_151656 (Piccola).jpg 0_1559396358317_20190601_151713 (Piccola).jpg

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by

            Looks good to me.

            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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            • deckingmanundefined
              deckingman
              last edited by

              That'll do.

              Ian
              https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
              https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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              • mrehorstdmdundefined
                mrehorstdmd
                last edited by mrehorstdmd

                With this sort of thing I tend to think about what might go wrong and what I can do to prevent it. I try to only have to do things once. Making things as close to ideal (in the relevant properties) as possible reduces the things you have to consider if something goes wrong. If I use a plastic part in an assembly I tend to make it bulky to ensure rigidity, so I wouldn't use thin plastic flanges, even with side-webbing, to support a relatively large weight or something that will be loaded by a drive belt.

                At the very least I would thicken the flange that bolts to the top side of the t-slot, maybe to the point of making it continuous with the body of the part. I'm not saying that your flange design won't be adequate, but if it isn't, you'll be redesigning and reprinting.

                In the end, you should worry less about the plastic flexing and more about the t-slot it's bolted to twisting.

                https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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                • claustroundefined
                  claustro @mrehorstdmd
                  last edited by

                  @mrehorstdmd
                  is something like this enough "bulky"?

                  0_1559405728244_lead screw mount 2 v2.jpg

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                  • mrehorstdmdundefined
                    mrehorstdmd
                    last edited by

                    Yes, I'd do something like that. I'd also use modifier meshes to increase the fill density around the mounting bolt holes.

                    https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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                    • Vetiundefined
                      Veti
                      last edited by

                      that reminds me there was a video by alex kenis about this
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z7mZVvPlc8

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                      • claustroundefined
                        claustro
                        last edited by

                        While I am trying to fix the squareness of the frame I finalized!the Z axis belt system
                        This is what it came out.
                        I tried to make the belt running as much as possible around the pulley with this setup all the pulley has 180 degree belt contact.
                        The 2 tensioners are temporary , I am going to print a support for it
                        Any suggestion will be appreciated.
                        Thank you
                        Andrea
                        0_1559588633233_20190603_173238 (Medium).jpg

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                        • deckingmanundefined
                          deckingman @claustro
                          last edited by

                          @claustro How come those front two lead screws are set so far back from the front of the frame?

                          Ian
                          https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                          https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                          • claustroundefined
                            claustro @deckingman
                            last edited by

                            @deckingman this is only a temporary disposition , at the end the 2 front lead screw will be as far as possible from the back one

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                            • deckingmanundefined
                              deckingman @claustro
                              last edited by

                              @claustro said in Best lead screw - ball bearing mount system:

                              @deckingman this is only a temporary disposition , at the end the 2 front lead screw will be as far as possible from the back one

                              Ah OK. I was a bit concerned that the two side rails might flex due to the weight of the bed acting so far away from the end fixings. Those "Tee plates" might flex though. If you can, check for any deflection by using a dial gauge if you can lay your hands on one, and adding a weight to simulate the weight of the bed to the top of the lead screw couplings.

                              Ian
                              https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                              https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                              • claustroundefined
                                claustro @deckingman
                                last edited by

                                @deckingman

                                I am trying to use your Z rail configuration with only 2 carriage in a diagonal disposition .
                                If you talking about the plastic tee plate , the one that fix the 2020 that support the 2 front lead screws, I am going to switch to aluminum one as soon I 'll have my CNC running . ( it will be my first easy test with aluminum 🙂 )

                                I have a dial gauge and I surely check what you suggest.

                                0_1559593583822_Immagine.jpg

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                                • deckingmanundefined
                                  deckingman @claustro
                                  last edited by

                                  @claustro For info, here is how I mounted my lead screw blocks.

                                  0_1559597136362_ZAxisCompleteSmall.jpg

                                  So each block is supported on two 2020 extrusions. One might be OK but check for deflection.

                                  Ian
                                  https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                                  https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                                  • claustroundefined
                                    claustro
                                    last edited by

                                    I have 2 spare 2040 peaces I can always copy your design in case I'll find some flex

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                                    • claustroundefined
                                      claustro
                                      last edited by

                                      I changed the setup following your tips this is the result.
                                      Now I have to choose if make a bed leveled by lead screws or by another set of screws only for the bed.

                                      0_1560415418410_20190611_184108 (Small).jpg

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                                      • deckingmanundefined
                                        deckingman @claustro
                                        last edited by

                                        @claustro That looks very familiar ☺

                                        Ian
                                        https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                                        https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                                        • claustroundefined
                                          claustro @deckingman
                                          last edited by

                                          @deckingman eh eh 🙂

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                                          • claustroundefined
                                            claustro
                                            last edited by

                                            I am thinking to change my setup.
                                            with only one bearing when I tension the belt the shaft tend to be dragged towards the centre, creating tension on the lead screw, for this reason I am making another support for another ball bearing under the previous one fixed on the other side of the vslot. The 4cm distance between the 2 bearing should improve the stiffness of the system.

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