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Best lead screw - ball bearing mount system

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    gnydick @deckingman
    last edited by 1 Jun 2019, 01:26

    @deckingman I had the exact same thing happen!!

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      claustro
      last edited by 1 Jun 2019, 13:39

      Thank you for all your suggestions.
      This is what come out .
      I moved the thrust bearing on the top so it can discharge the weight of the bed on the plastic structure.
      Below I installed the ball bearing that doesn't have to manage weight.
      I am still waiting for the rigid coupler.

      what do you think
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        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by 1 Jun 2019, 13:44

        Looks good to me.

        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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          deckingman
          last edited by 1 Jun 2019, 15:30

          That'll do.

          Ian
          https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
          https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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            mrehorstdmd
            last edited by mrehorstdmd 6 Jan 2019, 16:45 1 Jun 2019, 15:48

            With this sort of thing I tend to think about what might go wrong and what I can do to prevent it. I try to only have to do things once. Making things as close to ideal (in the relevant properties) as possible reduces the things you have to consider if something goes wrong. If I use a plastic part in an assembly I tend to make it bulky to ensure rigidity, so I wouldn't use thin plastic flanges, even with side-webbing, to support a relatively large weight or something that will be loaded by a drive belt.

            At the very least I would thicken the flange that bolts to the top side of the t-slot, maybe to the point of making it continuous with the body of the part. I'm not saying that your flange design won't be adequate, but if it isn't, you'll be redesigning and reprinting.

            In the end, you should worry less about the plastic flexing and more about the t-slot it's bolted to twisting.

            https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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              claustro @mrehorstdmd
              last edited by 1 Jun 2019, 16:15

              @mrehorstdmd
              is something like this enough "bulky"?

              0_1559405728244_lead screw mount 2 v2.jpg

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                mrehorstdmd
                last edited by 1 Jun 2019, 16:40

                Yes, I'd do something like that. I'd also use modifier meshes to increase the fill density around the mounting bolt holes.

                https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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                  Veti
                  last edited by 1 Jun 2019, 16:41

                  that reminds me there was a video by alex kenis about this
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z7mZVvPlc8

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                    claustro
                    last edited by 3 Jun 2019, 19:03

                    While I am trying to fix the squareness of the frame I finalized!the Z axis belt system
                    This is what it came out.
                    I tried to make the belt running as much as possible around the pulley with this setup all the pulley has 180 degree belt contact.
                    The 2 tensioners are temporary , I am going to print a support for it
                    Any suggestion will be appreciated.
                    Thank you
                    Andrea
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                      deckingman @claustro
                      last edited by 3 Jun 2019, 19:09

                      @claustro How come those front two lead screws are set so far back from the front of the frame?

                      Ian
                      https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                      https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                        claustro @deckingman
                        last edited by 3 Jun 2019, 19:14

                        @deckingman this is only a temporary disposition , at the end the 2 front lead screw will be as far as possible from the back one

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                          deckingman @claustro
                          last edited by 3 Jun 2019, 19:23

                          @claustro said in Best lead screw - ball bearing mount system:

                          @deckingman this is only a temporary disposition , at the end the 2 front lead screw will be as far as possible from the back one

                          Ah OK. I was a bit concerned that the two side rails might flex due to the weight of the bed acting so far away from the end fixings. Those "Tee plates" might flex though. If you can, check for any deflection by using a dial gauge if you can lay your hands on one, and adding a weight to simulate the weight of the bed to the top of the lead screw couplings.

                          Ian
                          https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                          https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                            claustro @deckingman
                            last edited by 3 Jun 2019, 20:37

                            @deckingman

                            I am trying to use your Z rail configuration with only 2 carriage in a diagonal disposition .
                            If you talking about the plastic tee plate , the one that fix the 2020 that support the 2 front lead screws, I am going to switch to aluminum one as soon I 'll have my CNC running . ( it will be my first easy test with aluminum 🙂 )

                            I have a dial gauge and I surely check what you suggest.

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                              deckingman @claustro
                              last edited by 3 Jun 2019, 21:27

                              @claustro For info, here is how I mounted my lead screw blocks.

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                              So each block is supported on two 2020 extrusions. One might be OK but check for deflection.

                              Ian
                              https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                              https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                                claustro
                                last edited by 3 Jun 2019, 21:42

                                I have 2 spare 2040 peaces I can always copy your design in case I'll find some flex

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                                  claustro
                                  last edited by 13 Jun 2019, 08:43

                                  I changed the setup following your tips this is the result.
                                  Now I have to choose if make a bed leveled by lead screws or by another set of screws only for the bed.

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                                    deckingman @claustro
                                    last edited by 13 Jun 2019, 11:49

                                    @claustro That looks very familiar ☺

                                    Ian
                                    https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                                    https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                                      claustro @deckingman
                                      last edited by 13 Jun 2019, 21:27

                                      @deckingman eh eh 🙂

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                                        claustro
                                        last edited by 17 Jun 2019, 08:23

                                        I am thinking to change my setup.
                                        with only one bearing when I tension the belt the shaft tend to be dragged towards the centre, creating tension on the lead screw, for this reason I am making another support for another ball bearing under the previous one fixed on the other side of the vslot. The 4cm distance between the 2 bearing should improve the stiffness of the system.

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                                          claustro
                                          last edited by 17 Jun 2019, 17:25

                                          this is what I did
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