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    • Corexyundefined
      Corexy
      last edited by

      If nothings blocked or the extruder gear isn't skipping, you are at best under extruding massively.

      I'd try calibrating the extruder esteps at 205degC for that material with a fresh nozzle fitted, any listen for any clicking or bad behavior from the extruder while doing it.

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      • droftartsundefined
        droftarts administrators @apex2011
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        @apex2011 Post your config.g, also send M115 and post response. A little information about your machine may be helpful too. Is the print a test cube? Could be that you have the Z steps per mm set wrong.

        Ian

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        • CaiJonasundefined
          CaiJonas
          last edited by

          do the auto pid tuning

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          • Kajundefined
            Kaj
            last edited by

            Is it set to the correct filament diameter on the slicer?

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            • apex2011undefined
              apex2011
              last edited by

              Sorry for the late replies. I have attached my config.g

              Printer is an Ender 3. the print is a test cube

              slicer settings are:
              Nozzle Diameter 0.40
              Extrusion multiplier 0.90
              retraction 4mm
              retraction speed 2400mm/min
              extruder temp 230
              bed temp 60
              Fan Speed 0 first layer 80 for the rest

              M115 response FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 Maestro FIRMWARE_VERSION: 2.03 ELECTRONICS: Duet Maestro 1.0 FIRMWARE_DATE: 2019-06-13b2

              config.g

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              • apex2011undefined
                apex2011 @CaiJonas
                last edited by

                @CaiJonas I have done auto pid tuning but will try it again

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                • jens55undefined
                  jens55
                  last edited by jens55

                  Extrusion multiplier should be around 1.0
                  from config.g:
                  I am not familiar with an ender 3 but the following thoughts are based on a Creality CR10
                  M92 should have an E value of around 100 unless you have a reduction gear extruder in which case it should be around 400.
                  Motor current seems a bit low but should work.
                  Edit:
                  I suspect that you re way too high on your steps per mm and the extruder is grinding your filament like there is no tomorrow. Every once in a while it catches and moves the filament forward a bit.

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                  • droftartsundefined
                    droftarts administrators @jens55
                    last edited by

                    @jens55 said in Terrible print:

                    I suspect that you re way too high on your steps per mm and the extruder

                    He's got x128 microstepping set for E, so 769 / 8 and you get 96. Also mentioned here: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+2:+Configuration/38#s128

                    @apex2011 The way your print looks thinner as it goes up just makes me think the Z is moving too far. Can you shut me up by moving Z to 0, then move it up 10mm, and measuring how far it has moved up?!

                    Ian

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                    • apex2011undefined
                      apex2011 @droftarts
                      last edited by

                      @droftarts please correct me if I misunderstood but I homed my Z axis and then moved up 10mm. I measured approx 9.98mm from Z home location
                      .

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                      • droftartsundefined
                        droftarts administrators @apex2011
                        last edited by

                        @apex2011 said in Terrible print:

                        @droftarts please correct me if I misunderstood but I homed my Z axis and then moved up 10mm. I measured approx 9.98mm from Z home location
                        .

                        Thanks for checking! That seems correct. Would seem to be extrusion related, then.

                        Ian

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
                          last edited by

                          • How fast are you trying to print that cube?
                          • Tangled filament path?
                          • Clogged nozzle?
                          • Loose pinch idler on the extruder?

                          Those would be my guesses.

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                          • apex2011undefined
                            apex2011 @Phaedrux
                            last edited by

                            @Phaedrux here are the print speeds f9d22d33-0738-42e1-a2ac-36b524fed9d8-image.png

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
                              last edited by

                              So definitely not too fast.

                              If you tell the hotend to extrude into free air, does it come out smoothly?

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                              • apex2011undefined
                                apex2011 @Phaedrux
                                last edited by

                                @Phaedrux yes, it looks like it comes out nice and smooth, no skipping on the gear either.

                                I had a VERY small step in the right direction by going through the entire setup process again. The print is still terrible....just a little less terrible lol

                                fcf17a04-2e72-4732-9c0b-b18d5a8d54eb-image.png

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                                • droftartsundefined
                                  droftarts administrators @apex2011
                                  last edited by

                                  @apex2011 Can you post the gcode file you're trying to print?

                                  Ian

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    Do you happen to have the slicer configured to expect 3mm filament? This sometimes happens with Cura defaulting to 2.85mm filament after an update when you're actually using 1.75mm filament leading to huge under extrusion similar to what you're seeing.

                                    Your screen shot of the speed settings looks like... Simplify3D? What filament diameter do you have configured?

                                    Also, what nozzle size are you using and what size is configured in the slicer? Using a larger nozzle than you think could lead to under extrusion like that as well.

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                                    • apex2011undefined
                                      apex2011 @droftarts
                                      last edited by

                                      @droftarts sure, here is the gcode from the last print. I slowed it down a lot just to rule out print speed.

                                      [0_1583623423559_800 Test_Cube.gcode](Uploading 100%)

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                                      • apex2011undefined
                                        apex2011 @Phaedrux
                                        last edited by

                                        @Phaedrux I am using Simplify 3d. I confirmed that it is set to 1.75mm filament. the nozzle is 0.4mm. just before my last print I cleaned out the block and changed the nozzle to a fresh, new one.

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          And you've gone through the extruder calibration from that Ender 3 guide?

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                                          • apex2011undefined
                                            apex2011 @Phaedrux
                                            last edited by

                                            @Phaedrux I have but I can do it again.

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