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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
      last edited by

      It doesn't look like you're doing a single G30 before the start of the print. I'm not really familiar with the delta calibration to know if that's still required or not.

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      • Danalundefined
        Danal
        last edited by Danal

        It is not absolutely required; however, a G32 with a bed.g that does 6 or 8 factor calibration is a best practice.

        My bed.g

        ; bed.g file for RepRapFirmware, generated by Escher3D calculator
        ; 16 points, 8 factors, probing radius: 280, probe offset (0, 0)
        G28
        M106 P1 S0
        G30 P0 X0.00 Y280.00 Z-99999 H0
        G30 P1 X140.00 Y242.49 Z-99999 H0
        G30 P2 X242.49 Y140.00 Z-99999 H0
        G30 P3 X280.00 Y0.00 Z-99999 H0
        G30 P4 X242.49 Y-140.00 Z-99999 H0
        G30 P5 X140.00 Y-242.49 Z-99999 H0
        G30 P6 X0.00 Y-280.00 Z-99999 H0
        G30 P7 X-140.00 Y-242.49 Z-99999 H0
        G30 P8 X-242.49 Y-140.00 Z-99999 H0
        G30 P9 X-280.00 Y-0.00 Z-99999 H0
        G30 P10 X-242.49 Y140.00 Z-99999 H0
        G30 P11 X-140.00 Y242.49 Z-99999 H0
        G30 P12 X0.00 Y140.00 Z-99999 H0
        G30 P13 X121.24 Y-70.00 Z-99999 H0
        G30 P14 X-121.24 Y-70.00 Z-99999 H0
        G30 P15 X0 Y0 Z-99999 S8
        G29 S1
        M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T40 
        

        The M106 turn the hot end fan off and back on. It shakes too much and false triggers the smart effector, if it runs during probing.

        My start Gcode (in the slicer)

        G28 ;Home
        G32
        G1 Z15.0 F6000 ;Move the platform down 15mm
        ;Prime the extruder
        G92 E0
        G1 F200 E3
        G92 E0
        

        Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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        • boldnutsundefined
          boldnuts
          last edited by

          Based on the video it looks to me that your nozzle is still slightly to high and your printing your first layer to fast, your print moves also seem quite jerky. Have you lubricated the haydn magball ends as he recommends ? https://www.magballarms.com/

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          • Carloundefined
            Carlo @boldnuts
            last edited by Carlo

            Hi,

            Yes they are well lubricated with a similar dry product which is Teflon based, The trigger height during the video was/is currently
            0.05.
            I will add slicer settings later once it completes a layer out of interest what trigger height do you suggest ?...as I've tried a few in 0.01 increments
            I don't seem to get any false triggers during travel when probing but i'll disconnect the fan during a probe and post again.
            I did a G29 S2, G28 then G32 prior to the print.
            My bed has G29 S2 added to it and is currently Factor 6 I've tried Factor 8 no benefit/visible effect.

            ; bed.g file for RepRapFirmware, generated by Escher3D calculator
            ; 10 points, 6 factors, probing radius: 170, probe offset (0, 0)
            G30 P0 X0.00 Y170.00 Z-99999 H0
            G30 P1 X147.22 Y85.00 Z-99999 H0
            G30 P2 X147.22 Y-85.00 Z-99999 H0
            G30 P3 X0.00 Y-170.00 Z-99999 H0
            G30 P4 X-147.22 Y-85.00 Z-99999 H0
            G30 P5 X-147.22 Y85.00 Z-99999 H0
            G30 P6 X0.00 Y85.00 Z-99999 H0
            G30 P7 X73.61 Y-42.50 Z-99999 H0
            G30 P8 X-73.61 Y-42.50 Z-99999 H0
            G30 P9 X0 Y0 Z-99999 S6

            G29 S2

            I'll go and move the fan to another socket so I can control it add the M106 and try some more settings again.
            So the height will make it complete the arcs which it doesn't at the moment.
            So it's just 2 settings move the fan and find a new height .Oh and use the file sliced by another forum user cool...that second one may be a bit trickier now I'm thinking about it ! but hey once more in to the breach

            As always big THANKS for the help it really is appreciated I know you don't have to help yet you do.

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            • NexxCatundefined
              NexxCat @Carlo
              last edited by

              @Carlo
              Try using this macro to configure your Z-probe offset. I wrote it and use it across multiple machines. Make sure to heat both the bed and nozzle. I use 60C on the bed and 130C on the nozzle:

              ;calibrate_z_probe_offset.g
              G31 P100 X0 Y0 Z0			; Reset Z trigger height to 0mm
              M290 R0 S0				; Reset babystepping
              G29 S2					; Clear bed mesh
              G28					; Home the effector
              G1 X0 Y0 Z20 F6000			; Move close to the bed
              G30					; Probe to find a rough Z 0mm
              
              G1 X0 Y0 Z1 F3000			; Move the nozzle to Z 1mm slowly
              G92 Z3.0				; Set the Z height to 3mm, allowing moves below 0
              M291 P"Lower the nozzle to until it grips a piece of paper. Click to continue." S2 Z1
              G92 Z0					; Define this point as 0mm
              G1 X0 Y0 Z20				; Move the probe to Z 20mm
              G30 S-3					; Probe and set the trigger height
              G1 Z20					; Raise Z to 20mm
              

              It will report your trigger height back, which you can then put into config.g

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              • Carloundefined
                Carlo @NexxCat
                last edited by

                @NexxCat

                Thanks I'll try that right now.
                Really appreciated.

                Thanks C

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                • Carloundefined
                  Carlo @NexxCat
                  last edited by Carlo

                  @NexxCat

                  Hi,

                  I ran the macro thanks for that results are:

                  1st
                  M98 P"0:/macros/Z probe report"
                  Z probe trigger height set to -0.084 mm

                  2nd
                  M98 P"0:/macros/Z probe report"
                  Z probe trigger height set to -0.146 mm

                  3rd
                  M98 P"0:/macros/Z probe report"
                  Z probe trigger height set to -0.159 mm

                  4th
                  M98 P"0:/macros/Z probe report"
                  Z probe trigger height set to -0.146 mm

                  5th
                  M98 P"0:/macros/Z probe report"
                  Z probe trigger height set to -0.159 mm

                  6th
                  M98 P"0:/macros/Z probe report"
                  Z probe trigger height set to -0.159 mm

                  So not sure what to set it to ... I know -0.159 I thought 3 out of 6 gotta be the one ....Its not the one.

                  after macro ztest.jpg

                  Thanks for the help oops guys or Ladies really appreciated PC correction

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by

                    I can't remember if this has been asked already, but has the bed been PID tuned?

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                    • Carloundefined
                      Carlo @Phaedrux
                      last edited by

                      @Phaedrux

                      Hiya,

                      Yeah both H0/H1 have and they are in the config.
                      I'm calling it now..... I'm done off to research a replacement.

                      Really appreciate all the help from everyone big THANK YOU!

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                      • NexxCatundefined
                        NexxCat @Carlo
                        last edited by

                        @Carlo
                        Did you use a single sheet of paper when it asked, just regular printer paper? Alternatively, if you have some feeler gauges, you can use a 0.10mm gauge.

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                        • droftartsundefined
                          droftarts administrators @Carlo
                          last edited by

                          @Carlo From my earlier post: When you swapped the original board back in, did you also put the original effector back on, or did it use the smart effector? If you used the original effector (and presumably original probe), can you try that with the Duet? This would at least narrow down if it's the effector or the Duet.

                          Ian

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                          • Carloundefined
                            Carlo @NexxCat
                            last edited by Carlo

                            @NexxCat

                            Hi NexxCat

                            I used the back off a sticker which is 0.1mm on my calipers.
                            Just found my gauges !

                            Thanks

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                            • Carloundefined
                              Carlo @NexxCat
                              last edited by

                              @NexxCat

                              Hi,

                              So I used the well 0.102 feeler gauge though it is .10 with my calipers and 3 times got 3 heights.
                              I did video the whole process but that won't help me
                              The numbers don't actually help because they are not accurate though one of them is:

                              M98 P"0:/macros/Z probe report"
                              Z probe trigger height set to -0.159 mm

                              I don't think it's the effector because it does what it is supposed to do and no matter what trigger height I put in G31 line its the same outcome and the effector does return the same probe heights all be it not one after the other 🙂
                              maybe the drivers are not calculating correctly I don't know but it is what it is and that is not usable.

                              Cheers for your help.

                              C

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                              • NexxCatundefined
                                NexxCat @Carlo
                                last edited by

                                @Carlo
                                Ok, last thing I can think of, just to double check if the actual positioning is being repeatable. Run these commands one at a time, or save it as a macro:

                                ; Disable any baby-stepping and the bed mesh
                                M290 R0 S0
                                G29 S2
                                
                                ; Home the effector
                                G28
                                
                                ; Heat bed to 60C & nozzle to 130C
                                M104 S130 T0
                                M190 S60 T0
                                M109 S130 T0
                                
                                ; Run delta calibration
                                G32
                                
                                ; Move the effector to 0,0,Max height
                                G1 X0 Y0 F4500
                                G1 Z500 F4500
                                
                                ; Move the effector back to 10mm off the bed
                                G1 Z10 F4500
                                
                                ; Slowly move down to 0.1mm
                                G1 Z0.1 F600
                                

                                When the macro is finished, the nozzle is at 0.1 on the Z axis. Use the paper or a 0.1mm feeler gauge and see if the nozzle truly is at 0.1mm

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                                • Carloundefined
                                  Carlo @droftarts
                                  last edited by Carlo

                                  @droftarts

                                  Hi Ian,

                                  I used the original effector with the mag arms (printed the adapters) whats funny is I didn't even try to get anything level or square I literally slapped it together set the offset 1 level and it just worked.
                                  I have the effector still wired I can carefully attach it to the Duet2 and try it i cant fit the effector to the other board it's locked down
                                  but I've written this thing off now I don't expect this to ever work with duet but after spending all this time I do want to know whats wrong maybe it will help someone else some day...probably not

                                  I post a video of it once its fitted

                                  Thanks
                                  C

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                                  • Carloundefined
                                    Carlo @NexxCat
                                    last edited by

                                    @NexxCat

                                    I'll do that now.

                                    Cheers
                                    C

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                                    • Carloundefined
                                      Carlo @NexxCat
                                      last edited by

                                      @NexxCat

                                      Hi NexxCat,

                                      No its 0.1mm to high

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                                      • NexxCatundefined
                                        NexxCat @Carlo
                                        last edited by

                                        @Carlo
                                        What is your current Z probe offset?

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                                        • Carloundefined
                                          Carlo @NexxCat
                                          last edited by

                                          @NexxCat

                                          G31 P100 X0 Y0 Z-0.159

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                                          • NexxCatundefined
                                            NexxCat @Carlo
                                            last edited by

                                            @Carlo
                                            I can't remember offhand which way to adjust the offset to bring it closer, but try both of these, one will certainly be too high, but the other, does that give you a 0.1mm gap when running the macro I posted?

                                            G31 P100 X0 Y0 Z-0.059
                                            
                                            G31 P100 X0 Y0 Z-0.259
                                            
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