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[Feature request] Add model preview to paneldue

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    A Former User
    last edited by mfs12 12 Dec 2021, 18:59 12 Dec 2021, 07:22

    Good morning, would it be possible in future to have a thumbnail for the GCODE in printing in pane2? Maybe have an option to choose if keep on seeing the actual status view or a new view with the thumbnail...

    Would it be an interesting feature?

    Thanks

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      Exerqtor @A Former User
      last edited by Exerqtor 12 Dec 2021, 20:25 12 Dec 2021, 09:24

      @thedragonlord said in Request for PanelDue Feature:

      Good morning, would it be possible in future to have a thumbnail for the GCODE in printing in pane2? Maybe have an option to choose if keep on seeing the actual status view or a new view with the thumbnail...

      Would it be an interesting feature?

      Thanks

      I would really love that too, a general UI refresh/modernisation pluss some new features that's become pretty common on most mainstream 3D printers would also be super nice. Guess it's being bottlenecked on the hardware side regretably 😥

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        mfs12
        last edited by mfs12 12 Dec 2021, 18:58 12 Dec 2021, 18:57

        I think it would be possible in general to integrate a model preview although it needs to be rendered somewhere else. So the image would be rendered somewhere and then you can watch it on the screen.

        I wonder where is the real benefit for the user except that it looks cool?

        And I would assume you had previously a decent look at the model when you chose it and decided to print it. Right?

        Can you please provide more arguments why this is a nice idea?

        @Exerqtor, I agree the UI could look more modern. What features from other printers do you miss?

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          gloomyandy
          last edited by 12 Dec 2021, 19:02

          Don't some slicers now insert a preview image into the gcode file? Perhaps the PD (and the web interface) could display that?

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            oliof @mfs12
            last edited by 12 Dec 2021, 19:22

            @mfs12 might be useful in a farm-like setup where you have pre-sliced models printed over and over again. An assistant could choose by the image to make sure they choose the right image.

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              A Former User @mfs12
              last edited by 12 Dec 2021, 19:46

              @mfs12 said in [Feature request] Add model preview to paneldue:

              I think it would be possible in general to integrate a model preview although it needs to be rendered somewhere else. So the image would be rendered somewhere and then you can watch it on the screen.

              I wonder where is the real benefit for the user except that it looks cool?

              And I would assume you had previously a decent look at the model when you chose it and decided to print it. Right?

              Can you please provide more arguments why this is a nice idea?

              @Exerqtor, I agree the UI could look more modern. What features from other printers do you miss?

              well, the main benefit could be an easier browsing of the gcode to print, and yes, it would be cool...

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                mfs12 @A Former User
                last edited by 12 Dec 2021, 22:04

                @thedragonlord said in [Feature request] Add model preview to paneldue:

                well, the main benefit could be an easier browsing of the gcode to print, and yes, it would be cool...

                what do you mean by "browsing of the gcode to print"? choosing the right gcode file?

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                  PaulHew
                  last edited by 12 Dec 2021, 22:31

                  are you going to be able to get all that data up that serial cable, and possibly a memory issue in the paneldue?

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                    Nurgelrot
                    last edited by 13 Dec 2021, 01:56

                    Most model displays in the control screen of printers are just preview images created by the slicer. That I think could be implemented in a redesigned PD. But live rendering? I would not want this. Massive waste of resources in your control screen (even if it was technically possible). If you really what this, do it via DWC and the Gcode viewer plugin on a tablet display don't burden the Panel Due.

                    I used to struggle with the PD's UI. You see other products and they look really cool and at first glance the PD looks so dated. Then I actually print something and realize that everything I really need to see is on the PD and is easy to read. Actually elegant in its efficiency.

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                      A Former User @mfs12
                      last edited by 13 Dec 2021, 05:34

                      @mfs12 said in [Feature request] Add model preview to paneldue:

                      @thedragonlord said in [Feature request] Add model preview to paneldue:

                      well, the main benefit could be an easier browsing of the gcode to print, and yes, it would be cool...

                      what do you mean by "browsing of the gcode to print"? choosing the right gcode file?

                      yes

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                        A Former User @Nurgelrot
                        last edited by 13 Dec 2021, 05:35

                        @nurgelrot said in [Feature request] Add model preview to paneldue:

                        Most model displays in the control screen of printers are just preview images created by the slicer. That I think could be implemented in a redesigned PD. But live rendering? I would not want this. Massive waste of resources in your control screen (even if it was technically possible). If you really what this, do it via DWC and the Gcode viewer plugin on a tablet display don't burden the Panel Due.

                        I used to struggle with the PD's UI. You see other products and they look really cool and at first glance the PD looks so dated. Then I actually print something and realize that everything I really need to see is on the PD and is easy to read. Actually elegant in its efficiency.

                        I don't want live rendering too

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                          dc42 administrators @A Former User
                          last edited by 13 Dec 2021, 07:49

                          @thedragonlord said in [Feature request] Add model preview to paneldue:

                          Good morning, would it be possible in future to have a thumbnail for the GCODE in printing in pane2? Maybe have an option to choose if keep on seeing the actual status view or a new view with the thumbnail...

                          We looked at this last year. Unfortunately the data compression algorithm used to encode the thumbnail needs more than 32kb of RAM to decompress the data, and the current PanelDue hardware doesn't have enough spare.

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                            A Former User @dc42
                            last edited by 13 Dec 2021, 07:51

                            @dc42 uh, ok.... thanks

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                              mfs12
                              last edited by 13 Dec 2021, 08:34

                              Here's the old thread...

                              https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/18342/paneldue-image-display

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                                dc42 administrators @A Former User
                                last edited by dc42 13 Dec 2021, 11:24

                                @thedragonlord if we upgraded the processor in PanelDue from ATSAM4S4B to ATSAM4S8B then there would be enough RAM. But it would probably make more sense to redesign it around the ESP32-C3 instead.

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                                  A Former User @dc42
                                  last edited by 13 Dec 2021, 11:26

                                  @dc42 said in [Feature request] Add model preview to paneldue:

                                  @thedragonlord if we upgraded the processor in PanelDue from ATSAM4S4B to ATSAM4S8B then there would be enough RAM.

                                  ok

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                                    mfs12
                                    last edited by mfs12 22 Feb 2022, 17:56

                                    Preview images with QOI are now supported since pd-3.4.1-pre1.

                                    https://github.com/Duet3D/PanelDueFirmware/issues/246

                                    mfs12 created this issue 3 Feb 2022, 11:39 in Duet3D/PanelDueFirmware

                                    closed Add support for QOI thumbnails in gcode files #246

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