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    Smart effector for delta printers
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    • A Former User?
      A Former User
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      @elmoret:

      Yes, but not everyone knows that. Better stated: The biggest issue with network cable on stepper motors is folks using solid core cable which can't handle the flexing.

      Hence my comment to David about using flexible silicone wire, which in hindsight was a stupid comment as he more than likely understands that better than most.

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      • A Former User?
        A Former User
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        Hi guys

        Any update on this kit being released. Yet

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
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          There is a 5-week lead time on the modified E3D heatsinks, and the order has only just been placed. We are waiting for feedback from beta testers before we finalise the rest of the design, but unless that results in major changes then we can manufacture production electronics more quickly than that. So I hope we will be shipping kits about 6 weeks from now.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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          • botundefined
            bot
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            Is there any chance to get two or four of those heatsinks either through you or e3d around that time? I'd love to use the screw-top mount over the groove mount.

            *not actually a robot

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            • A Former User?
              A Former User
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              @dc42:

              There is a 5-week lead time on the modified E3D heatsinks, and the order has only just been placed. We are waiting for feedback from beta testers before we finalize the rest of the design, but unless that results in major changes then we can manufacture production electronics more quickly than that. So I hope we will be shipping kits about 6 weeks from now.

              I would like to buy the effector and plate adapters, dont need anything E3d I already have an adapter system 90% ready to allow me to use my Prometheus hot end in the same manner as your pics show. I just need the effector to allow me to 100% match the hole spacing.

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              • T3P3Tonyundefined
                T3P3Tony administrators
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                Once we have finalised the design I will publish the dimensions

                www.duet3d.com

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                • a96bimmerm3gmail.comundefined
                  a96bimmerm3gmail.com
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                  Do you guys have any ETA on this? I'm really excited about it, looks perfect for what I need.

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators
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                    See my previous post.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                    • a96bimmerm3gmail.comundefined
                      a96bimmerm3gmail.com
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                      Six weeks, sorry. I was a little overzealous!

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                      • o_lampeundefined
                        o_lampe
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                        Just stumbled across this thread and flipped through the pages without reading every line, so I apologize, if that has been asked before:
                        Have you considered putting LEDs on the PCB-bottom?

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                        • Dougal1957undefined
                          Dougal1957
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                          Have a look at https://duet3d.com/wiki/Smart_effector_and_carriage_adapters_for_delta_printer you will see if you scroll down to the underneath pic of it that there is indeed LED's on the bottom surface as well as 2 showing thru the top to indicate Hotend on and Sensor trigger.

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                          • smunterundefined
                            smunter
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                            I'm in for one once this gets going as well.

                            I know adding an IMU was discussed earlier for autolevelling and calibration purposes, but I would another potential use as well: magball disconnect detection. It should be very easy to tell if the effector goes out of level by more than 10 degrees or so, and shut down the printer so no more damage is done. I would take an IMU on board for that purpose alone.

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                            • Ethelredundefined
                              Ethelred
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                              David, what sort of accuracy/repeatability results are you finding for fully assembled ball-ball spacing across rod pitch and array angularity as well as ball planar relations? Standard PCB hole-hole tolerance is +/- 0.10mm. Add to that slop in the ball stud hole fit, ball-to-stud concentricity ( don't know how Haydn specifies this ) as well as PCB warp and stud flange face to ball center. Serious tolerance budgeting - it might be interesting to see what a three sigma distribution looks like. On the other hand deltas often seem to work fairly well even with some pretty low tolerance angle ball stud (ugh!) printed effector platforms.

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                              • W3DRKundefined
                                W3DRK
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                                Wow…I've just now noticed this topic. What a stunning design, I really love the concept!

                                I was just planning on refitting my delta with wider rod spacing and a piezo Z-probe effector, but I really like this design better than any printable one. For folks with machines like my UltiBots 250 V-Slot...how would we go about mounting the carriage adapters to our existing wheeled carriages like these?

                                https://github.com/UltiBots/K250VS/blob/master/Experimental/umbee_carriage_45.stl

                                Also, if you haven't already is there any chance you could work with the Zesty Nimble crew so they can design a mount for this new heatsink/effector arrangement?

                                Cheers!

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                                • A Former User?
                                  A Former User
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                                  @W3DRK:

                                  Wow…I've just now noticed this topic. What a stunning design, I really love the concept!

                                  I was just planning on refitting my delta with wider rod spacing and a piezo Z-probe effector, but I really like this design better than any printable one. For folks with machines like my UltiBots 250 V-Slot...how would we go about mounting the carriage adapters to our existing wheeled carriages like these?

                                  https://github.com/UltiBots/K250VS/blob/master/Experimental/umbee_carriage_45.stl

                                  Also, if you haven't already is there any chance you could work with the Zesty Nimble crew so they can design a mount for this new heatsink/effector arrangement?

                                  Cheers!

                                  Just go buy linear rails and enjoy the precision 😛

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                                  • W3DRKundefined
                                    W3DRK
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                                    OpenBuilds precision V-Slot and Delrin rollers vs cheap Chinese linear rails? No thanks…

                                    @CaLviNx:

                                    Just go buy linear rails and enjoy the precision 😛

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators
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                                      The carriage adapters have the usual 4 mounting holes on a 20mm square to attach to standard linear rail sliders or Kossel wheeled carriage trucks. If the two holes on one side of that carriage are 20mm apart, then I guess you could drill another hole in the carriage adapter for the single hole on the other side of your carriage.

                                      Having first used wheeled carriages and then switched to linear rails, I prefer the rails too.

                                      We have a couple of beta users who are investigating how to mount the Nimble on top of the effector.

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                      • W3DRKundefined
                                        W3DRK
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                                        Thanks David. Those 3 holes are for the wheels themselves.

                                        But it looks like switching to something like this could work if I can find a printable belt fastening mechanism:

                                        https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1638410

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                                        • SM3Dundefined
                                          SM3D
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                                          Hi David,
                                          I have a linear rail carriage with mounting holes on a 26 mm square.
                                          Is it possible to have carriage adapters with no mounting holes so I can drill them using a printed jig?

                                          Regards,
                                          Vasan

                                          Good judgement comes from experience but experience comes from bad judgements

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                                          • dc42undefined
                                            dc42 administrators
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                                            I think it would be possible (just) to drill 2.9mm holes with 26m centres in the existing carriage adapters. You would have 1.5mm between the inner edges of your new holes and the outer edges of the existing ones.

                                            What size linear rails use 26mm mounting centres?

                                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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