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    • engikeneerundefined
      engikeneer @RyanP
      last edited by

      @ryanp asking the silly questions, but was mesh compensation disabled when you did the nozzle height test? I ended going round and round in circles when I first started using auto bed levelling because I had mesh compensation enabled at the same time (so it was trying to level a compensated bed and the two things just fought each other).

      E3D TC with D3Mini and Toolboards.
      Home-built CoreXY, Duet Wifi, Chimera direct drive, 2x BMG, 300x300x300 build volume
      i3 clone with a bunch of mods

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      • Hornetriderundefined
        Hornetrider
        last edited by

        Hi @RyanP

        I have had similar issues with my printer concerning the bed leveling.
        Have you tried to mechanically align all axis to the bed?

        What helped me was the following procedure:

        1. Check with a digital Bevel box if the frame of printer is leveled (x, Y and Z Frame)
          -> If not, get it leveled
        2. Check if the bed is leveled with digital Bevel Box
          -> use X & Y Frame as reference (zero bevel box to that reference)
          -> Level it out as good as possible
        3. Check X and Y axis are leveled to the bed with a caliper and get this down to 0.1..0.2 mm
          -> It might be that axis are out of level to the frame

        Funny thing though, even after mechanically aligning my printer I had a weird effect on the height map.
        My finding is, that if the height map shows a clear deviation to one side (mostly X-axis) then the mechanical alignment to the bed might be poor.

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        • RyanPundefined
          RyanP
          last edited by

          Still Working on it

          Corner One Probe
          4.309 mm
          4.307 mm
          4.306 mm

          Corner 2 Probe
          3.981 mm
          3.983 mm
          3.983 mm

          Corner 3 Probe
          3.380 mm
          3.388 mm
          3.385 mm

          Corner 4 Probe
          3.933 mm
          3.929 mm
          3.931 mm

          CR10S, August 2018
          Anycubic Photon S December 2019
          Ender 5 Feb 2020
          Ender 5 Plus May 2020
          Anycubic Photon Mono X Nov 2020
          ~
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          • RyanPundefined
            RyanP @RyanP
            last edited by

            Im taking a break from it. I have other working machines and need to take a break from it. Get back to it tomorrow.

            CR10S, August 2018
            Anycubic Photon S December 2019
            Ender 5 Feb 2020
            Ender 5 Plus May 2020
            Anycubic Photon Mono X Nov 2020
            ~
            https://3dimensiongames.com/

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by

              Your probe results look consistent in one spot, which is good, but they also seem to vary with XY position a bit still. Dipping off to the back side by the looks of the map?

              The fact that your adjustments and re-alignments are making a difference is a good sign though.

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              • RyanPundefined
                RyanP @Phaedrux
                last edited by

                @phaedrux

                Well, I don't even know where to begin. As I previously posted on Saturday, I had gotten close to fixing my issue with my bed and probing, but was going to walk away for a few days (canadian long weekend).

                I've come back to this machine now with a clear mind and a few ideas.

                I turn the machine on and warm it up. This machine is using the Duet 2 Maestro, and 2.05 firmware.

                I hit the home button:
                E5 p1.jpg

                Print head moves X and Y to their endstops, then to the center of the bed. The BL Touch probe is deployed properly, touches the glass surface twice and reports back the correct z-offset and moves the head up to the expected position:

                E5 p2.jpg

                But as soon as it stops its motion the head position for the Z-axis turns from 11.77 to this:

                E5 p3.jpg

                Now the machine is locked up and I cannot move the head with the DWC controls or macros.

                I'm starting to think that the Maestro board is pooched, but I really have no idea. I have a backup Duet 2 Wifi board here that I can replace the Maestro with, but I would rather know for sure.

                CR10S, August 2018
                Anycubic Photon S December 2019
                Ender 5 Feb 2020
                Ender 5 Plus May 2020
                Anycubic Photon Mono X Nov 2020
                ~
                https://3dimensiongames.com/

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                • droftartsundefined
                  droftarts administrators @RyanP
                  last edited by

                  @ryanp post your homeall.g file?

                  Ian

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                  • RyanPundefined
                    RyanP @droftarts
                    last edited by

                    @droftarts

                    ; homeall.g
                    ; called to home all axes
                    ;
                    ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2.1.8 on Tue Feb 18 2020 18:08:45 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
                    G91                     ; relative positioning
                    G1 H2 Z5 F9000        ; lift Z relative to current position
                    G1 H1 X-240 Y-240 F3000 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
                    G1 H2 X20 Y20 F3000      ; go back a few mm
                    G1 H1 X-240 Y-240 F1000  ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
                    G90                     ; absolute positioning
                    G1 X110 Y80 F9000 	; go to center of bed  ; go to first bed probe point and home Z
                    G30                     ; home Z by probing the bed
                    
                    ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
                    G91                   ; relative positioning
                    G1 Z5 F9000            ; lift Z relative to current position
                    G90                   ; absolute positioning
                    G29 S1                  ; absolute positioning
                    

                    CR10S, August 2018
                    Anycubic Photon S December 2019
                    Ender 5 Feb 2020
                    Ender 5 Plus May 2020
                    Anycubic Photon Mono X Nov 2020
                    ~
                    https://3dimensiongames.com/

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by

                      I wonder if it's a problem from loading the heightmap. Can you try deleting the heightmap.csv file and recreating it fresh?

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                      • RyanPundefined
                        RyanP @Phaedrux
                        last edited by

                        @phaedrux
                        Will do.

                        CR10S, August 2018
                        Anycubic Photon S December 2019
                        Ender 5 Feb 2020
                        Ender 5 Plus May 2020
                        Anycubic Photon Mono X Nov 2020
                        ~
                        https://3dimensiongames.com/

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                        • o_lampeundefined
                          o_lampe @RyanP
                          last edited by o_lampe

                          @ryanp said in Drastic improvements with BL Touch disabled:

                          This machine is using the Duet 2 Maestro, and 2.05 firmware.

                          Did you go through 'known bugs' related to RRF 2.0x? Maybe there were unsolved issues with BLtouch?

                          I have checked an old SD-card image from RRF2.05 and there are retractprobe.g and unretractprobe.g in the /sys folder. I remember, they messed up my homing routine, because they contained some BS....
                          I didn't know, that 'G30' always calls them, if present...

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                          • RyanPundefined
                            RyanP
                            last edited by

                            @Phaedrux @o_lampe

                            deleting the text in the height map did solve the latest issue.

                            But now I am having problems with the Maestro board connecting to the network. If I turn the unit off, then back on, many times now it won't connect. I have to turn it off, unplug it, plug it back in and turn it on...and even thats 50/50.

                            All my wifi units work. So Im going to swap the cable, as well as review the access point it is connected to. But I have a pretty extensive knowledge of home networking from my home audio and automation days, and am confident regarding my network.

                            Like I mentioned, I have a backup Duet 2 Wifi board that I can use if I think something has

                            CR10S, August 2018
                            Anycubic Photon S December 2019
                            Ender 5 Feb 2020
                            Ender 5 Plus May 2020
                            Anycubic Photon Mono X Nov 2020
                            ~
                            https://3dimensiongames.com/

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                            • RyanPundefined
                              RyanP @RyanP
                              last edited by

                              @Phaedrux @o_lampe @droftarts @Hornetrider @engikeneer @deckingman

                              I have fixed my problem. I took apart the printer last weekend and re-assembled it. Moving some of the extrusions around (like rotating your tires) and re-squared everything up. Found one spot that seemed a but off so I positioned it with a small gap and tightened things up with a metal 90 degree corner.

                              I also noticed that my bed.g file looked like this

                              M561 				; clear any bed transform
                              G29 S2				; Clear bed height map
                              ; Probe 2-points
                              M401 				; Deploy probe - deployprobe.g
                              G30 P0 X90 Y115 Z-9999 		; Center Left
                              G30 P1 X125 Y115 Z-9999 S2 	; Center Right
                              M402 
                              

                              But there is only one 7 axis on this printer. So I deleted everything expect the M561 command.

                              Between those two things, my printing is back to normal. I wanted to thank everyone for their suggestions.

                              CR10S, August 2018
                              Anycubic Photon S December 2019
                              Ender 5 Feb 2020
                              Ender 5 Plus May 2020
                              Anycubic Photon Mono X Nov 2020
                              ~
                              https://3dimensiongames.com/

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                              • DonStaufferundefined
                                DonStauffer @RyanP
                                last edited by

                                @ryanp Check the reliability of the wiring from your BLTouch. I found 2 only occasionally intermittent wiring problems that caused me no end of problems. The intermittent nature of the problems had me confused for a very long time. What clued me in was that for a while, the probe started failing to probe at one corner of the bed, every time. That said to me it was the wiring being moved. Sure enough, that was the big problem.

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