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    • tecnoundefined
      tecno @tecno
      last edited by tecno

      https://youtu.be/6YHxmoWgLI8

      M672 S131:131
      1/16th µstep Back to 'normal'

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      • rjenkinsgbundefined
        rjenkinsgb @tecno
        last edited by rjenkinsgb

        @tecno OK; the Z-0.72 reminds me of the smart effector I got that was faulty...

        The other one is incredibly sensitive, I initially set it at -0.1 but to get a correct first layer it seems better at Z0.0 !
        That's with all default settings.

        DC42 is the authority on that, though; I'm just another Duet user.

        Robert J.

        Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
          last edited by dc42

          @tecno said in Smart Effector issue:

          @dc42 said in Smart Effector issue:

          @tecno please answer the first question in my previous post. Also tell us what M558 command you are using.

          M558 P8 R0.4 C"probe+servo0" H15 F800 T1500

          G29 and tiggers on point where it should go down. Idle = NO

          Try reducing the probing Z acceleration, using M201.1 if you are running 3.4.0RC firmware, or M201 if not. High Z acceleration combined with a high mass hot end create the same strain in the effector at the start of the probing move as nozzle contact does.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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          • tecnoundefined
            tecno @dc42
            last edited by

            @dc42
            M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z400.00 E1000.00

            Slightly worse = more jump over points

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators @tecno
              last edited by dc42

              @tecno try even lower, e.g. 100.

              Also, if the green LED flashes at the end of the XY travel move rather than at the start of the probing move, increase the M558 R parameter.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              • tecnoundefined
                tecno @dc42
                last edited by

                @dc42

                R1 or R2 Still same problem

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                • tecnoundefined
                  tecno @tecno
                  last edited by

                  DSC_0115.JPG

                  No problems with fan shroud taken off.

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by

                    What does the fan shroud look like when on?

                    Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                    • tecnoundefined
                      tecno @Phaedrux
                      last edited by

                      @phaedrux
                      https://youtu.be/6YHxmoWgLI8

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Ah, so quite large then.

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                        • tecnoundefined
                          tecno @Phaedrux
                          last edited by

                          @phaedrux

                          Jay has been using this model without problems, so go figure.

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator
                            last edited by

                            Interesting. I wonder if it's a sensitivity problem then.

                            I assume it's been disassembled and reassembled already?

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                            • tecnoundefined
                              tecno @Phaedrux
                              last edited by

                              @phaedrux

                              Still as in latest picture = no duct.
                              Total weight is 84grams with 3 fans, printed in PETG.

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                              • jay_s_ukundefined
                                jay_s_uk @Phaedrux
                                last edited by

                                @phaedrux that duct design (which is mine) works fine for me on my smart effector v3 so i doubt thats the issue. I still think its a mechanical issue with effector tilt

                                Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                • tecnoundefined
                                  tecno @jay_s_uk
                                  last edited by tecno

                                  Have found my main issue = the printed effector adapter is way too small = too short rods.

                                  Back to the drawing board!

                                  DSC_0117.JPG DSC_0116.JPG

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                                  • tecnoundefined
                                    tecno @tecno
                                    last edited by

                                    DSC_0119.JPG

                                    A bit larger adapter 😉

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                                    • tecnoundefined
                                      tecno @tecno
                                      last edited by

                                      One violent move and this is the result.
                                      DSC_0120.JPG

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                                      • tecnoundefined
                                        tecno @tecno
                                        last edited by

                                        So some days has gone and I am now trying to get the Smart Effector to work = no go!

                                        New non 3D printed effector adapter (original in alu with slight modifications)

                                        Area of bed 9 to 3 down to 6 can be probed G30 and 0,0 towards back about 50mm works
                                        Out of that area the smart effector is not sensitive enough as the effector needs to tilt a lot before it triggers.
                                        I find this a bit odd as the trigger LED on head moves. All set to default values.

                                        bed.g

                                        config.g

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator
                                          last edited by Phaedrux

                                          Your dive speed seems to be half the recommended value. M558 F600 vs M558 F1200

                                          https://docs.duet3d.com/en/Duet3D_hardware/Accessories/Smart_Effector#configuring-firmware

                                          M558 P8 R0.8 C"probe+servo0" H10 F600 T2000

                                          M558 P8 R0.4 F1200

                                          So perhaps it's not striking with enough force to reliably trigger.

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                                          • tecnoundefined
                                            tecno @Phaedrux
                                            last edited by

                                            @phaedrux

                                            And looks like that, had to go all way up to 2500 to get reliable trig.

                                            Where do I set hotend offset and where to set effector offset?
                                            Looking from front X0/Y0 effector is to left and the hotend is a bit left too.

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