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    • gloomyandyundefined
      gloomyandy @tecno
      last edited by

      @tecno said in Smart Effector issue:

      M672 S105:070:255
      That does not look like a valid command to me. See:

      To program the sensor, send command M672 S105:aaa:bbb replacing aaa by the desired sensitivity and bbb by 255 - aaa. The green LED will flash 4 times if the command is accepted. When you subsequently power up the effector, the green LED will flash three times instead of twice to indicate that a custom sensitivity is being used.
      

      So the 3rd value needs to be 255 minus the second value. In this case 255-70 = 185. What happens if you send: M672 S105:070:185?

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      • tecnoundefined
        tecno @gloomyandy
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        @gloomyandy

        👍

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        • tecnoundefined
          tecno @tecno
          last edited by

          I get no where with this M672 sensitivity setting. Tried both P5 and P8 and up to 50:205 and I get sporadic jump overs.
          Can this be my step setting?
          M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
          M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z80.00 E80.00

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators @tecno
            last edited by

            @tecno said in Smart Effector issue:

            Running G29 I get sporadic triggers with no Z moving, is there a way to adjust the sensitivity?
            Triggers at H height

            Is it triggering when the machine is idle, not moving?

            If so, does it make a difference whether the hot end fan and/or print cooling fan are running?

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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            • tecnoundefined
              tecno @dc42
              last edited by

              @dc42
              No fans active - no magnets on effector

              G29 and tiggers on point where it should go down.

              Tried now with higher µsteps
              M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z80.00 E80.00 ; set steps per mm
              M350 X256 Y256 Z256 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation

              This gives much better result, but I think I need to adjust belts that sound to be cogging.

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              • tecnoundefined
                tecno @tecno
                last edited by

                Still sporadic trigging, need some rest to clear my head.

                I noticed following. when homed and issuing G29 I can observe several triggs with LED flickering.
                This even with 55:200.

                Also I can see push-down of bed position from 12 to 4 in outer positions.

                Something is fishy for sure.

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators @tecno
                  last edited by dc42

                  @tecno please answer the first question in my previous post. Also tell us what M558 command you are using.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                  • tecnoundefined
                    tecno @dc42
                    last edited by

                    @dc42 said in Smart Effector issue:

                    @tecno please answer the first question in my previous post. Also tell us what M558 command you are using.

                    M558 P8 R0.4 C"probe+servo0" H15 F800 T1500

                    G29 and tiggers on point where it should go down. Idle = NO

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                    • rjenkinsgbundefined
                      rjenkinsgb @tecno
                      last edited by

                      @tecno What do you have in the probe G31 line?

                      Robert J.

                      Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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                      • tecnoundefined
                        tecno @rjenkinsgb
                        last edited by

                        @rjenkinsgb

                        G31 P180 X0 Y0 Z-0.72

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                        • tecnoundefined
                          tecno @tecno
                          last edited by tecno

                          https://youtu.be/6YHxmoWgLI8

                          M672 S131:131
                          1/16th µstep Back to 'normal'

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                          • rjenkinsgbundefined
                            rjenkinsgb @tecno
                            last edited by rjenkinsgb

                            @tecno OK; the Z-0.72 reminds me of the smart effector I got that was faulty...

                            The other one is incredibly sensitive, I initially set it at -0.1 but to get a correct first layer it seems better at Z0.0 !
                            That's with all default settings.

                            DC42 is the authority on that, though; I'm just another Duet user.

                            Robert J.

                            Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by dc42

                              @tecno said in Smart Effector issue:

                              @dc42 said in Smart Effector issue:

                              @tecno please answer the first question in my previous post. Also tell us what M558 command you are using.

                              M558 P8 R0.4 C"probe+servo0" H15 F800 T1500

                              G29 and tiggers on point where it should go down. Idle = NO

                              Try reducing the probing Z acceleration, using M201.1 if you are running 3.4.0RC firmware, or M201 if not. High Z acceleration combined with a high mass hot end create the same strain in the effector at the start of the probing move as nozzle contact does.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                              • tecnoundefined
                                tecno @dc42
                                last edited by

                                @dc42
                                M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z400.00 E1000.00

                                Slightly worse = more jump over points

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators @tecno
                                  last edited by dc42

                                  @tecno try even lower, e.g. 100.

                                  Also, if the green LED flashes at the end of the XY travel move rather than at the start of the probing move, increase the M558 R parameter.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                  • tecnoundefined
                                    tecno @dc42
                                    last edited by

                                    @dc42

                                    R1 or R2 Still same problem

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                                    • tecnoundefined
                                      tecno @tecno
                                      last edited by

                                      DSC_0115.JPG

                                      No problems with fan shroud taken off.

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        What does the fan shroud look like when on?

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                                        • tecnoundefined
                                          tecno @Phaedrux
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                                          @phaedrux
                                          https://youtu.be/6YHxmoWgLI8

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                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            Ah, so quite large then.

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