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    • tecnoundefined
      tecno @dc42
      last edited by

      @dc42
      No fans active - no magnets on effector

      G29 and tiggers on point where it should go down.

      Tried now with higher µsteps
      M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z80.00 E80.00 ; set steps per mm
      M350 X256 Y256 Z256 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation

      This gives much better result, but I think I need to adjust belts that sound to be cogging.

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      • tecnoundefined
        tecno @tecno
        last edited by

        Still sporadic trigging, need some rest to clear my head.

        I noticed following. when homed and issuing G29 I can observe several triggs with LED flickering.
        This even with 55:200.

        Also I can see push-down of bed position from 12 to 4 in outer positions.

        Something is fishy for sure.

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators @tecno
          last edited by dc42

          @tecno please answer the first question in my previous post. Also tell us what M558 command you are using.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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          • tecnoundefined
            tecno @dc42
            last edited by

            @dc42 said in Smart Effector issue:

            @tecno please answer the first question in my previous post. Also tell us what M558 command you are using.

            M558 P8 R0.4 C"probe+servo0" H15 F800 T1500

            G29 and tiggers on point where it should go down. Idle = NO

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            • rjenkinsgbundefined
              rjenkinsgb @tecno
              last edited by

              @tecno What do you have in the probe G31 line?

              Robert J.

              Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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              • tecnoundefined
                tecno @rjenkinsgb
                last edited by

                @rjenkinsgb

                G31 P180 X0 Y0 Z-0.72

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                • tecnoundefined
                  tecno @tecno
                  last edited by tecno

                  https://youtu.be/6YHxmoWgLI8

                  M672 S131:131
                  1/16th µstep Back to 'normal'

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                  • rjenkinsgbundefined
                    rjenkinsgb @tecno
                    last edited by rjenkinsgb

                    @tecno OK; the Z-0.72 reminds me of the smart effector I got that was faulty...

                    The other one is incredibly sensitive, I initially set it at -0.1 but to get a correct first layer it seems better at Z0.0 !
                    That's with all default settings.

                    DC42 is the authority on that, though; I'm just another Duet user.

                    Robert J.

                    Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by dc42

                      @tecno said in Smart Effector issue:

                      @dc42 said in Smart Effector issue:

                      @tecno please answer the first question in my previous post. Also tell us what M558 command you are using.

                      M558 P8 R0.4 C"probe+servo0" H15 F800 T1500

                      G29 and tiggers on point where it should go down. Idle = NO

                      Try reducing the probing Z acceleration, using M201.1 if you are running 3.4.0RC firmware, or M201 if not. High Z acceleration combined with a high mass hot end create the same strain in the effector at the start of the probing move as nozzle contact does.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                      • tecnoundefined
                        tecno @dc42
                        last edited by

                        @dc42
                        M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z400.00 E1000.00

                        Slightly worse = more jump over points

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators @tecno
                          last edited by dc42

                          @tecno try even lower, e.g. 100.

                          Also, if the green LED flashes at the end of the XY travel move rather than at the start of the probing move, increase the M558 R parameter.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                          • tecnoundefined
                            tecno @dc42
                            last edited by

                            @dc42

                            R1 or R2 Still same problem

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                            • tecnoundefined
                              tecno @tecno
                              last edited by

                              DSC_0115.JPG

                              No problems with fan shroud taken off.

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by

                                What does the fan shroud look like when on?

                                Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                • tecnoundefined
                                  tecno @Phaedrux
                                  last edited by

                                  @phaedrux
                                  https://youtu.be/6YHxmoWgLI8

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    Ah, so quite large then.

                                    Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                    • tecnoundefined
                                      tecno @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by

                                      @phaedrux

                                      Jay has been using this model without problems, so go figure.

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        Interesting. I wonder if it's a sensitivity problem then.

                                        I assume it's been disassembled and reassembled already?

                                        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                        • tecnoundefined
                                          tecno @Phaedrux
                                          last edited by

                                          @phaedrux

                                          Still as in latest picture = no duct.
                                          Total weight is 84grams with 3 fans, printed in PETG.

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                                          • jay_s_ukundefined
                                            jay_s_uk @Phaedrux
                                            last edited by

                                            @phaedrux that duct design (which is mine) works fine for me on my smart effector v3 so i doubt thats the issue. I still think its a mechanical issue with effector tilt

                                            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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