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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators @ctilley79
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      @ctilley79 said in Software bundle 3.4.0 stable released!:

      @oliof I was hoping they would continue to work on input shaper implementation because I believe it still lags behind Klipper.

      In what way? We are continuing work on the IS plugin to make it easier to use accelerometer data to tune IS.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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      • Argoundefined
        Argo @dc42
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        @dc42

        Differences I see compared to Klipper right now:

        • separate shaper frequency for each axis

        • automatic resonance testing (with a accelerometer): Klipper firmware generates vibrations from lower to higher frequencies and tests each shaper for it‘s effectiveness at each frequency. The results and recommendations are then displayed in a graph. It also recommends maximum acceleration values.
          Example:

        721e564d-2a11-405f-a5e4-4aaa59d925df-image.png https://www.klipper3d.org/img/calibrate-y.png

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators @Argo
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          @argo separate shaper per axis is not only unnecessary (because the supported shapers cover frequency ranges of up to 3:1), it is a bad idea because if you use different shape on different axes then the motion of the axes will no longer be synchronised during acceleration and deceleration. This will result in print artefacts, for example on corners that are not aligned with the axes.

          I already said that we are continuing work on the input shaping plugin to make tuning IS easier.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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          • zaptaundefined
            zapta @dc42
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            @dc42 said in Software bundle 3.4.0 stable released!:

            it is a bad idea because if you use different shape on different axes then the motion of the axes will no longer be synchronised

            How about a single input shaping that is direction dependent? That is, some interpolation for angles between X only and Y only?

            (I don't know how input shaping works, just thinking loud).

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            • chrishammundefined
              chrishamm administrators @zapta
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              @zapta Applying two different input shapers on two axes has certain downsides so we decided it would be better to support only a single input shaper for two axes to damp both ringing frequencies.

              We have a first beta of a new input shaping plugin ready but we need to discuss a few more details internally before we eventually release it. I expect we'll publish it sometime this week.

              Duet software engineer

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              • samlogan87undefined
                samlogan87 @chrishamm
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                @chrishamm looking forward to this

                Custom Core-XY

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                • zaptaundefined
                  zapta @chrishamm
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                  @chrishamm said in Software bundle 3.4.0 stable released!:

                  Applying two different input shapers on two axes has certain downsides

                  I was thinking about a single input shaper but in direction of movement rather than direction of axises. Here is an example, let's say that you want to optimize a 45deg movement in a cartesian printer. You run the input shaping calibration process with moves in 45deg, analyze to determine frequencies and IS parameters, and then when you move in 45%, you use that input shaper. Now imagine that you test IS for direction in 45deg increment and when you move for example in direction of 50deg, you use some interpolation to determine the input shaping in that direction.

                  (I must say that I don't know how input shaping works but my understanding that it's some kind of modulation of the movement which can be applied for movements in any directions)

                  Does this make sense?

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators @zapta
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                    @zapta given that the input shapers supported by RRF have effective bandwidths of up to 3:1, it's not necessary to do anything as complex as that.

                    To get a 3:1 ratio of resonant frequencies on the X and Y axes, and assuming X and Y axes use belts of approximately equal width, length and tension, you would need a mass ratio of 9:1. That's higher than you are likely to get even in a large bed slinger.

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                    • zaptaundefined
                      zapta @dc42
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                      @dc42, thanks for the explanation.

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                      • SputnikOC3dundefined
                        SputnikOC3d @dc42
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                        @dc42 - this release seems to be breaking my Nozzle Heater on the 1LC.

                        my lonely forum post

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                        • damaged_goodsundefined
                          damaged_goods @dc42
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                          @dc42 Hey David. Thanks to you and others for all the work you are putting into reprap.
                          As a Prusa user I am use to being spoon fed firmware and Slicer settings. Is there a Reprap Slicer that the community finds works best?
                          Thanks again.

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                          • BoAundefined
                            BoA @damaged_goods
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                            @damaged_goods I use Prusa Slicer - it works perfectly fine.

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                            • zaptaundefined
                              zapta @damaged_goods
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                              @damaged_goods said in Software bundle 3.4.0 stable released!:

                              Is there a Reprap Slicer that the community finds works best?

                              For what printer and what Duet board? Duet3d Mini5 on Prusa MK3?

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                              • Schickfusundefined
                                Schickfus
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                                Hi,

                                I have a MB6HC with a SBC-Rasbarry Pi 4.

                                I am using the apt-get update / apt-get upgrade. It says that nothing to upgrade. But when I try the M115 command it says firmware 3.2.2

                                Do I do something wrong?

                                I have been following the documentation.

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                                • damaged_goodsundefined
                                  damaged_goods @BoA
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                                  @boa Thank you,

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                                  • damaged_goodsundefined
                                    damaged_goods @zapta
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                                    @zapta It's a custom built very large printer with a duet 3 MB6HC.

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                                    • jay_s_ukundefined
                                      jay_s_uk @Schickfus
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                                      @schickfus can you open a separate thread for your issue please

                                      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                      • Schickfusundefined
                                        Schickfus @jay_s_uk
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                                        @jay_s_uk ok

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                                        • Stephen6309undefined
                                          Stephen6309 @damaged_goods
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                                          @damaged_goods I use SuperSlicer. https://github.com/supermerill/SuperSlicer/releases

                                          It has thumbnails compatible with the PanelDue.

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                                          • tfjieldundefined
                                            tfjield
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                                            @dc42 said in Software bundle 3.4.0 stable released!:

                                            Thumbnail

                                            Anyone know how to get thumbnail generation in Cura?

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