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    • Argoundefined
      Argo @dc42
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      @dc42

      Differences I see compared to Klipper right now:

      • separate shaper frequency for each axis

      • automatic resonance testing (with a accelerometer): Klipper firmware generates vibrations from lower to higher frequencies and tests each shaper for it‘s effectiveness at each frequency. The results and recommendations are then displayed in a graph. It also recommends maximum acceleration values.
        Example:

      721e564d-2a11-405f-a5e4-4aaa59d925df-image.png https://www.klipper3d.org/img/calibrate-y.png

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators @Argo
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        @argo separate shaper per axis is not only unnecessary (because the supported shapers cover frequency ranges of up to 3:1), it is a bad idea because if you use different shape on different axes then the motion of the axes will no longer be synchronised during acceleration and deceleration. This will result in print artefacts, for example on corners that are not aligned with the axes.

        I already said that we are continuing work on the input shaping plugin to make tuning IS easier.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        • zaptaundefined
          zapta @dc42
          last edited by

          @dc42 said in Software bundle 3.4.0 stable released!:

          it is a bad idea because if you use different shape on different axes then the motion of the axes will no longer be synchronised

          How about a single input shaping that is direction dependent? That is, some interpolation for angles between X only and Y only?

          (I don't know how input shaping works, just thinking loud).

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          • chrishammundefined
            chrishamm administrators @zapta
            last edited by

            @zapta Applying two different input shapers on two axes has certain downsides so we decided it would be better to support only a single input shaper for two axes to damp both ringing frequencies.

            We have a first beta of a new input shaping plugin ready but we need to discuss a few more details internally before we eventually release it. I expect we'll publish it sometime this week.

            Duet software engineer

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            • samlogan87undefined
              samlogan87 @chrishamm
              last edited by

              @chrishamm looking forward to this

              Custom Core-XY

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              • zaptaundefined
                zapta @chrishamm
                last edited by

                @chrishamm said in Software bundle 3.4.0 stable released!:

                Applying two different input shapers on two axes has certain downsides

                I was thinking about a single input shaper but in direction of movement rather than direction of axises. Here is an example, let's say that you want to optimize a 45deg movement in a cartesian printer. You run the input shaping calibration process with moves in 45deg, analyze to determine frequencies and IS parameters, and then when you move in 45%, you use that input shaper. Now imagine that you test IS for direction in 45deg increment and when you move for example in direction of 50deg, you use some interpolation to determine the input shaping in that direction.

                (I must say that I don't know how input shaping works but my understanding that it's some kind of modulation of the movement which can be applied for movements in any directions)

                Does this make sense?

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators @zapta
                  last edited by

                  @zapta given that the input shapers supported by RRF have effective bandwidths of up to 3:1, it's not necessary to do anything as complex as that.

                  To get a 3:1 ratio of resonant frequencies on the X and Y axes, and assuming X and Y axes use belts of approximately equal width, length and tension, you would need a mass ratio of 9:1. That's higher than you are likely to get even in a large bed slinger.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  • zaptaundefined
                    zapta @dc42
                    last edited by

                    @dc42, thanks for the explanation.

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                    • SputnikOC3dundefined
                      SputnikOC3d @dc42
                      last edited by SputnikOC3d

                      @dc42 - this release seems to be breaking my Nozzle Heater on the 1LC.

                      my lonely forum post

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                      • damaged_goodsundefined
                        damaged_goods @dc42
                        last edited by

                        @dc42 Hey David. Thanks to you and others for all the work you are putting into reprap.
                        As a Prusa user I am use to being spoon fed firmware and Slicer settings. Is there a Reprap Slicer that the community finds works best?
                        Thanks again.

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                        • BoAundefined
                          BoA @damaged_goods
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                          @damaged_goods I use Prusa Slicer - it works perfectly fine.

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                          • zaptaundefined
                            zapta @damaged_goods
                            last edited by zapta

                            @damaged_goods said in Software bundle 3.4.0 stable released!:

                            Is there a Reprap Slicer that the community finds works best?

                            For what printer and what Duet board? Duet3d Mini5 on Prusa MK3?

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                            • Schickfusundefined
                              Schickfus
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                              Hi,

                              I have a MB6HC with a SBC-Rasbarry Pi 4.

                              I am using the apt-get update / apt-get upgrade. It says that nothing to upgrade. But when I try the M115 command it says firmware 3.2.2

                              Do I do something wrong?

                              I have been following the documentation.

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                              • damaged_goodsundefined
                                damaged_goods @BoA
                                last edited by

                                @boa Thank you,

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                                • damaged_goodsundefined
                                  damaged_goods @zapta
                                  last edited by

                                  @zapta It's a custom built very large printer with a duet 3 MB6HC.

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                                  • jay_s_ukundefined
                                    jay_s_uk @Schickfus
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                                    @schickfus can you open a separate thread for your issue please

                                    Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                    • Schickfusundefined
                                      Schickfus @jay_s_uk
                                      last edited by

                                      @jay_s_uk ok

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                                      • Stephen6309undefined
                                        Stephen6309 @damaged_goods
                                        last edited by

                                        @damaged_goods I use SuperSlicer. https://github.com/supermerill/SuperSlicer/releases

                                        It has thumbnails compatible with the PanelDue.

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                                        • tfjieldundefined
                                          tfjield
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                                          @dc42 said in Software bundle 3.4.0 stable released!:

                                          Thumbnail

                                          Anyone know how to get thumbnail generation in Cura?

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                                          • oliofundefined
                                            oliof @tfjield
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                                            @tfjield Install the RRF plugin for Cura.

                                            <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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