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    • nikschaundefined
      nikscha @PenguinAkiko
      last edited by nikscha

      @penguinya I think it would be fast enough. Just put a "while true" into daemon.g and then a G4 P50 in the body to execute your script every 50ms. (Edit: this wouldn't actually run that frequent, more like 3-6 times a second)

      I don't think pressure advance needs to be adjusted that often, right?

      Stay in school

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      • PenguinAkikoundefined
        PenguinAkiko @nikscha
        last edited by PenguinAkiko

        @nikscha Bambu Lab tests pa every print, and 50ms really slow, HX711 can reach 80HZ, Prusa using HX717 320HZ, higher the sampling frequency, the more beneficial for auto PA testing.

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        • PenguinAkikoundefined
          PenguinAkiko
          last edited by

          find a better chip for load cell.
          CS1237 http://www.asidesigner.com/Files/PartFiles/15315/222/cs1237_datasheet.pdf
          spi bus 1.28kHz ADC and PGA

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          • PenguinAkikoundefined
            PenguinAkiko @nikscha
            last edited by

            @nikscha Here is a post about sampling speed
            https://forum.duet3d.com/post/251488

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            • PenguinAkikoundefined
              PenguinAkiko
              last edited by

              https://wiki.bambulab.com/en/a1/manual/intro-a1
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              • PenguinAkikoundefined
                PenguinAkiko @PenguinAkiko
                last edited by

                @penguinya The introduction of bambulab confirmed my guess.

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                • Charlieundefined
                  Charlie
                  last edited by

                  Correct me if Im wrong, but I feel like this sensor could also be used for filament runout/jam detection as well. Like if the force expected by feeding the filament is not produced, it could indicate that there is some filament error.

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                  • PenguinAkikoundefined
                    PenguinAkiko @Charlie
                    last edited by

                    @Charlie Yes prusa has implemented it

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                    • Richard Fundefined
                      Richard F @Charlie
                      last edited by

                      @Charlie would a mouse optical sensor work to monitor filament

                      do we need more than this for a run out trigger Untitled.png

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                      • oliofundefined
                        oliof @Richard F
                        last edited by

                        @Richard-F that's the simple runout switch that you find on many printers. There are other filament failures you'd want to catch.

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                        • Charlieundefined
                          Charlie @PenguinAkiko
                          last edited by

                          @penguinya Do you have a link to this? I havent seen anything about it.

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                          • Charlieundefined
                            Charlie @Richard F
                            last edited by

                            @Richard-F It would absolutely work. Ive seen a few systems using this, and Ive used it myself in the past. I know the Duet supports it, though Id recommend looking around to see how others have implemented it. (eg: using printed levers to contact the filament instead of the switch lever contacting the filament directly)

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                            • Richard Fundefined
                              Richard F @Charlie
                              last edited by

                              @Charlie Thanks 🙂

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                              • Charlieundefined
                                Charlie @Richard F
                                last edited by

                                @Richard-F Youre welcome. Happy Printing! 🙂

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                                • PenguinAkikoundefined
                                  PenguinAkiko
                                  last edited by

                                  Just an updating.
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                                  • PenguinAkikoundefined
                                    PenguinAkiko @Charlie
                                    last edited by

                                    @Charlie https://help.prusa3d.com/article/stuck-filament-detection-13101-mk4-21101-mk3-9-17108-xl_690089

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                                    • Charlieundefined
                                      Charlie @PenguinAkiko
                                      last edited by

                                      @penguinya I love it! I'm assuming that the geometry near the top is to allow for deflection that can be measured using a strain gage.

                                      Random thought though. Would it be necessary to constrain it some other way to prevent loads from being transmitted from the model being printed to the load cell? Like, if you do a travel move, and the nozzle skips along the top of the print, it will transfer load to the load cell. Perhaps this can be mitigated in firmware (by not taking measurements unless its actively extruding) or filtering out certain frequencies.

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                                      • PenguinAkikoundefined
                                        PenguinAkiko @Charlie
                                        last edited by

                                        @Charlie According to the simulation results, the impact on printing is unobservable.
                                        Aluminum 6061, 100N force
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                                        • PenguinAkikoundefined
                                          PenguinAkiko @PenguinAkiko
                                          last edited by

                                          @penguinya Just early version, I think it is ok.
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                                          • Charlieundefined
                                            Charlie @PenguinAkiko
                                            last edited by

                                            @penguinya Cool work! And apologies if I was unclear, but I was thinking that the print itself may induce feedback that may skew how the strain is being determined. Not that the reduced material would affect print quality. But again, that may be able to be filtered out.

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