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    • KevinMarundefined
      KevinMar @DIY-O-Sphere
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      @diy-o-sphere lol yeah, boards working fine otherwise

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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        @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

        @dc42 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

        If after re-tuning with the silicone sock on (if necessary) the heaters still fault, you can try reducing the M307 R parameter. Try a 30% reduction.

        I added the sock, retuned, and it still faulted.

        I reduced R from 2 to 1.5 and it didn't help

        Did the R value change much when you added the sock, or was it just the C values that changed?

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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        • fcwiltundefined
          fcwilt @KevinMar
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          @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

          @fcwilt Yes, all 3 faulted (nearly) simultaneously, when heating is initiated simultaneously

          If you execute a M570 command from the DWC Console what value does it report?

          Frederick

          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          • KevinMarundefined
            KevinMar @dc42
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            @dc42 C values changed when tuning with the sock.

            R values were a manual change

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            • KevinMarundefined
              KevinMar @fcwilt
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              @fcwilt "Print will be terminated if a heater fault is not reset within 10 minutes"

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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                @kevinmar confirm you are running firmware 3.3 on both main board and tool board?

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                • KevinMarundefined
                  KevinMar @dc42
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                  @dc42 yes, 100%. All running 3.3 non beta or anything

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                  • fcwiltundefined
                    fcwilt @KevinMar
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                    @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                    @fcwilt "Print will be terminated if a heater fault is not reset within 10 minutes"

                    As a test have you commented out the settings for all but one tool heater to see if that makes a difference?

                    Frederick

                    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                    • KevinMarundefined
                      KevinMar @fcwilt
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                      @fcwilt huh? Just comment out all of the heaters? I have not tried that.

                      Should I add "M570 H1 P10 T15 S0" to my config?

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                      • KevinMarundefined
                        KevinMar
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                        The thing that keeps confusing me is that this is a very standard-issue setup. Running all standard E3D + Duet hardware, and running a stable release of the firmware.

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                        • fcwiltundefined
                          fcwilt @KevinMar
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                          @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                          @fcwilt huh? Just comment out all of the heaters? I have not tried that.

                          Should I add "M570 H1 P10 T15 S0" to my config?

                          I was wondering if the same problem would occur you if you only had one extruder heater configured.

                          As to the M570 I was working with out of date documentation.

                          It turns out with current firmware it appears you have to have a H parameter to set/report on a given heater.

                          Frederick

                          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                          • fcwiltundefined
                            fcwilt @KevinMar
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                            @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                            The thing that keeps confusing me is that this is a very standard-issue setup. Running all standard E3D + Duet hardware, and running a stable release of the firmware.

                            It most certainly is confusing but I would not be surprised if we are overlooking something that should be obvious.

                            Frederick

                            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                            • KevinMarundefined
                              KevinMar @fcwilt
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                              @fcwilt Me too, but I've been digging

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                                KevinMar @KevinMar
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                                • fcwiltundefined
                                  fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                  @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                  @fcwilt Me too, but I've been digging

                                  When I'm faced with something like this I resort to a process of elimination, thus my suggestion to configure just one heater to see if it changes anything.

                                  Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                  • KevinMarundefined
                                    KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                    @fcwilt I've commented out all heaters except H2, autotuning now.
                                    "M308 S2 P"21.temp0" Y"pt1000" A"Ex1"
                                    M950 H2 C"21.out0" T2 ; Heater for extruder out tool 1
                                    M307 H2 R2.050 C309.100:130.600 D6.20 S1.00 V24.3 B0
                                    M570 H2 P10 T25 S0.1"

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                                    • fcwiltundefined
                                      fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                      @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                      @fcwilt I've commented out all heaters except H2, autotuning now.
                                      "M308 S2 P"21.temp0" Y"pt1000" A"Ex1"
                                      M950 H2 C"21.out0" T2 ; Heater for extruder out tool 1
                                      M307 H2 R2.050 C309.100:130.600 D6.20 S1.00 V24.3 B0
                                      M570 H2 P10 T25 S0.1"

                                      Worth a try.

                                      At some point did you verify that each tool board is actually at the address you are using?

                                      Frederick

                                      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                      • KevinMarundefined
                                        KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                        @fcwilt Yes, toolboards are at the addresses assigned

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                                          Can you send M98 P"config.g" to check for any syntax errors?

                                          I'd also suggest generating a basic config using the online tool and trying with that.

                                          Perhaps a photo of the hotend itself my give us some clues.

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                                          • fcwiltundefined
                                            fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                            @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                            @fcwilt Yes, toolboards are at the addresses assigned

                                            I've got a test setup on my workbench but it only has one tool board connected and it works fine.

                                            Perhaps there is some as yet undiscovered firmware problem that only manifests with multiple tool boards.

                                            Frederick

                                            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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