Dual Z tilts after time (fast)
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Hey there Guys,
i've got a Problem the keeps me from getting a flat leveled Bed.
I've got on the left and on the right an Dual-Leadscre Setup (D-Bot = https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1001065)
but it tilts from time to time and i don't know what i should do to prevent that.It would be cool if the printer checks the left and the right side and moves both stepper motors independently to adjust those tilting.
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Hi,
The firmware can do what you are asking about.
https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Bed_levelling_using_multiple_independent_Z_motors
Frederick
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Thx, but does it work also if i connected both to the Z?
I thought i need that Expansion Board for a "second" Z Axis. -
@AS-3D-Druck said in Dual Z tilts after time (fast):
Thx, but does it work also if i connected both to the Z?
No it does not.
I thought i need that Expansion Board for a "second" Z Axis.
You can use free driver on Duet, if you have one. Means for example, if you have only one extruder, connected to E0, then you can use E1 for second Z axis motor.
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@AS-3D-Druck The reason why it tilts is because every time you apply power, the motors jump to the nearest full step which might be either forwards or backwards. Actually, I believe it's worse than that and it might actually be a difference of 4 full steps but I can't remember the reason why.
You have two practical options that I can think of. The first is to drive each motor independently and use bed levelling but as @aidar has pointed out, for that to happen each motor has to be connected to a separate driver. The second option would be to drive both screws together via a single motor and continuous belt.
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@deckingman said in Dual Z tilts after time (fast):
The second option would be to drive both screws together via a single motor and continuous belt.
Or stick with 2 motors, but connect them with a belt. The belt needs to prevent one motor moving by 4 full steps relative to the other.
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Would you not get 'wind up' of the mechanics if you have two motors connected like that?
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@jens55 said in Dual Z tilts after time (fast):
Would you not get 'wind up' of the mechanics if you have two motors connected like that?
I would have thought so but perhaps it might not be significant?
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Ok i tryed the independent Leadscrews but it looks like 1mm correction isn't enough.
G32 Error: Some computed corrections exceed configured limit of 1.00mm: -2.080 2.814 -
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@Veti Thx i tryed 5mm now and it works.
From now on i should use in my start Gcode before every Print G32 S2 right?
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@AS-3D-Druck said in Dual Z tilts after time (fast):
From now on i should use in my start Gcode before every Print G32 S2 right?
it depends on your bed.
if its perfectly flat yes.if not use
G32 followed by G29 -
Ok i don't know what happend but now my Homing has flipped from front left to back right. (Stall Detection)
I don't know why it worked yesterday and now not.
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do the normal moves are in the correct direction?
if yes -> check your homing file moves
if no -> change direction of motors in the config -
This is how it homes
This is how i home all:
; Lift Z relative to current position G91 G1 Z10 F6000 S2 G90 M913 X50 Y50 ; reduce motor current to 50% to prevent belts slipping G91 ; use relative positioning ; X G1 S1 X-500 F4000 ; move the X to max until it detects the min Point G92 X0 ; set X min Point G1 S1 X30 ; move X away from min Point M400 ; Y G1 S1 Y-500 F4000 ; move the X to max until it detects the min Point G92 Y0 ; set X min Point G1 S1 Y30 ; move X away from min Point G90 ; back to absolute positioning M913 X100 Y100 Z100 ; motor currents back to normal ; Z G1 S1 X168 Y95 F2000 ; put head over the centre of the bed, or wherever you want to probe G30 ; lower head, stop when probe triggered and set Z to trigger height G91 ; relative mode G1 Z10 F6000 S2 ; raise head 4mm to ensure it is above the Z probe trigger height G90 ; back to absolute mode config: https://pastebin.com/gFtv1wM7
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@AS-3D-Druck Do the motors still move in the right correct directions? i.e. when you do G1 S1 X-500, does it still move to the left? And when you do G1 S1 Y-500, does it still move to the front?
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@deckingman said in Dual Z tilts after time (fast):
@AS-3D-Druck Do the motors still move in the right correct directions? i.e. when you do G1 S1 X-500, does it still move to the left? And when you do G1 S1 Y-500, does it still move to the front?
It does not move at all in - only in+ but there is no room for any Movement so it cares in the Extrusion.
The coordinates are set wrong for some reason
btw. i added on my Post before the config.g
config: https://pastebin.com/gFtv1wM7 -
You might want to consider joining the two leadscrews with a belt
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@AS-3D-Druck said in Dual Z tilts after time (fast):
It does not move at all in - only in+ but there is no room for any Movement so it cares in the Extrusion.
this does not answer the question.
move the extruder to the middle
issue M564 H0
and see if the movement are as expeded.
ie x - goes left x+ goes right -
@Veti No it does nit everything in - isn't working except i use M564 H0 than i can manualy move it to the middle but homing does still not work anymore.