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    • tristanryerparkeundefined
      tristanryerparke @dc42
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      @dc42 Hey David,
      What kind of current rating are you thinking for these boards?
      Tristan

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators @tristanryerparke
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        @tristanryerparke said in closed loop nema 17/23 driver/controller for Duet 3 6hc board:

        @dc42 Hey David,
        What kind of current rating are you thinking for these boards?
        Tristan

        Up to 6.3A peak (4.5A RMS) @ up to 50V.

        We have the new hardware prototypes running now.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        • 3DPMicroundefined
          3DPMicro @dc42
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          @dc42
          I am adding cnc capabilities to a manual Lathe at work and was intending to use 2, 4'ish amp Closed loop Nema 23's from Stepperonline and a Duet 2 with expansion board for control. After reading this I would much rather use a MB6HC and the new expansion board. If I could get my hands on one of your new prototypes that would be great. Please let me know if you are interested in dedicating a board for cnc testing. I can be ready in as little as 3 weeks

          Duet controlled Lathe, micro mill, 3d printer and 1992 Haas VF2 VMC

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators @3DPMicro
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            @3dpmicro depending on what else you want to drive, it is may be that a Duet 3 Mini + the closed loop boards would be sufficient for your system.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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            • 3DPMicroundefined
              3DPMicro @dc42
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              @dc42
              Not much else. Spindle control at some point. I can see how the MB6HC would be a bit overkill for the application.

              Duet controlled Lathe, micro mill, 3d printer and 1992 Haas VF2 VMC

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              • supertb1undefined
                supertb1 @dc42
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                @dc42 Hello dc42, it is that time of the month and I am as excited as I have been to take part in field testing the new closed loop controller and steppers. How close is Duet3D to coming to market? As always best regards.

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators @supertb1
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                  @supertb1 we'll be starting the beta test phase shortly.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  • martin7404undefined
                    martin7404 @dc42
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                    @dc42 I am interested to test, willing to pay for the hardware

                    Muldex IDEX Duet2+Duex5
                    Custom CoreXY 600x400 Hemera , Duet3+Toolboard+1HCL closed loop
                    Sapphire Pro with Duet2, with closed-loop motors
                    custom high temp E3D tool changer with Duet2+Duex

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                    • supertb1undefined
                      supertb1 @dc42
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                      @dc42 I'm with Martin7404

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                      • Luke'sLaboratoryundefined
                        Luke'sLaboratory @dc42
                        last edited by Luke'sLaboratory

                        @dc42

                        Sounds neat. What MCU do they use?

                        I'm definitely in for beta, if you're looking for volunteers. I have machines that are heavily EMF-limited at 325mm/s+, have stepper analyzers, and run 15k accel. I'll make sure they get the hot supper they deserve, and finally max out my Magnum+ with a .4mm nozzle. 🙂

                        Luke

                        Luke
                        http://lukeslab.online

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                        • MaxGyverundefined
                          MaxGyver @Luke'sLaboratory
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                          I have a professional IDEX printer prepared for closed loop with Nanotech motors featuring integrated encoders. Since all the cabling is already in place, only the closed loop controllers are missing... I would be very happy to support the beta testing.

                          -Max

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                          • tristanryerparkeundefined
                            tristanryerparke @dc42
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                            @dc42 I would also like to join the beta crew, and would purchase several once everything is refined.
                            Thanks

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                            • CNCModellerundefined
                              CNCModeller @dc42
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                              @dc42 said in closed loop nema 17/23 driver/controller for Duet 3 6hc board:

                              @supertb1 we'll be starting the beta test phase shortly.

                              Great news! I assume the intern? has had fun getting the code up and running 🙂

                              I'd be interested in taking part in the beta as well.

                              Looking forward to seeing how hard I can push the polar printer bed!

                              Polar Duet3 Mini + 1HCL
                              https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWjZVEdMv1BY82izahK45qKh-hp3NFkix
                              Wanhao D4S: Duet2
                              https://forum.duet3d.com/post/296755
                              K40 Laser, Duet2
                              https://forum.duet3d.com/post/312082
                              Wanhao D5S
                              https://www.youtube.com/CNCModellerUK

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                              • Hoops40undefined
                                Hoops40
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                                I have 7 x 1xd boards for my 5 axis 3d printer build will these new boards work with them?
                                These are for my 400 watt jmc servos.

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                                • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                  T3P3Tony administrators @Hoops40
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                                  @hoops40 if you are already using servos with step/direction input then the 1HCL board is not what you need. It is designed to control a stepper motor in closed loop mode. the documentation is here:

                                  https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Duet_3_Expansion_1HCL

                                  www.duet3d.com

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                                  • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                    T3P3Tony administrators @T3P3Tony
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                                    For those people interested in beta testing the 1HCL boards please see this forum post here:
                                    https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/24782/duet3d-1hcl-closed-loop-controller-beta-test

                                    www.duet3d.com

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                                    • Hoops40undefined
                                      Hoops40 @T3P3Tony
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                                      @t3p3tony thank you for your reply.
                                      Will there be an update for position feedback for the 1xd boards?

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                                      • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                        T3P3Tony administrators @Hoops40
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                                        @hoops40 the 1XD board is designed for external motor controllers (which can be either open or closed loop). Position feedback would be handled by that controller not the 1XD.

                                        www.duet3d.com

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                                        • Hoops40undefined
                                          Hoops40 @T3P3Tony
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                                          @t3p3tony understood thank you.

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                                          • supertb1undefined
                                            supertb1 @T3P3Tony
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                                            @t3p3tony I have the boards set to channel 50 and 51;
                                            I understand the command set for the closed loop steppers with quadrature encoder:
                                            M569.1 P50.0 S1 T2 E20 R100 I0 D0 ; Configure the 1HCL board at CAN address 50 with a quadrature encoder on the motor shaft that has 20 steps per motor full step.
                                            M569.1 P51.0 S1 T2 E20 R100 I0 D0 ; Configure the 1HCL board at CAN address 51 with a quadrature encoder on the motor shaft that has 20 steps per motor full step.
                                            M569 P50.0 D4 S1 ; Configure the motor on the 1HCL at can address 50 as being in closed-loop drive mode (D4) and not reversed (S1)
                                            M569 P51.0 D4 S0 ; Configure the motor on the 1HCL at can address 51 as being in closed-loop drive mode (D4) and not reversed (S0)
                                            M584 X50.0 Y51.0 ; set X and Y drivers
                                            M917 X0 Y0 ; Set the closed loop axes to have a holding current of zero.

                                            What will the command set look like for an open loop motor X and Y axis?
                                            I am currently waiting on the motors to arrive and would like to make use of these boards in the mean time.

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