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    • KevinMarundefined
      KevinMar @DIY-O-Sphere
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      @diy-o-sphere Changed to thermistor (actually changed hardware) just to try troubleshooting

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        DIY-O-Sphere @KevinMar
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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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          @kevinmar did you see my comment about retuning with a silicone sock in place, and my suggestion to reduce the M307 R parameter?

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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          • KevinMarundefined
            KevinMar @dc42
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            @dc42 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

            If after re-tuning with the silicone sock on (if necessary) the heaters still fault, you can try reducing the M307 R parameter. Try a 30% reduction.

            I added the sock, retuned, and it still faulted.

            I reduced R from 2 to 1.5 and even to 1.0 and it didn't help

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            • KevinMarundefined
              KevinMar @DIY-O-Sphere
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              @diy-o-sphere lol yeah, boards working fine otherwise

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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                @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                @dc42 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                If after re-tuning with the silicone sock on (if necessary) the heaters still fault, you can try reducing the M307 R parameter. Try a 30% reduction.

                I added the sock, retuned, and it still faulted.

                I reduced R from 2 to 1.5 and it didn't help

                Did the R value change much when you added the sock, or was it just the C values that changed?

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                • fcwiltundefined
                  fcwilt @KevinMar
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                  @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                  @fcwilt Yes, all 3 faulted (nearly) simultaneously, when heating is initiated simultaneously

                  If you execute a M570 command from the DWC Console what value does it report?

                  Frederick

                  Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                  • KevinMarundefined
                    KevinMar @dc42
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                    @dc42 C values changed when tuning with the sock.

                    R values were a manual change

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                    • KevinMarundefined
                      KevinMar @fcwilt
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                      @fcwilt "Print will be terminated if a heater fault is not reset within 10 minutes"

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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                        @kevinmar confirm you are running firmware 3.3 on both main board and tool board?

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                        • KevinMarundefined
                          KevinMar @dc42
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                          @dc42 yes, 100%. All running 3.3 non beta or anything

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                          • fcwiltundefined
                            fcwilt @KevinMar
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                            @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                            @fcwilt "Print will be terminated if a heater fault is not reset within 10 minutes"

                            As a test have you commented out the settings for all but one tool heater to see if that makes a difference?

                            Frederick

                            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                            • KevinMarundefined
                              KevinMar @fcwilt
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                              @fcwilt huh? Just comment out all of the heaters? I have not tried that.

                              Should I add "M570 H1 P10 T15 S0" to my config?

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                              • KevinMarundefined
                                KevinMar
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                                The thing that keeps confusing me is that this is a very standard-issue setup. Running all standard E3D + Duet hardware, and running a stable release of the firmware.

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                                • fcwiltundefined
                                  fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                  @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                  @fcwilt huh? Just comment out all of the heaters? I have not tried that.

                                  Should I add "M570 H1 P10 T15 S0" to my config?

                                  I was wondering if the same problem would occur you if you only had one extruder heater configured.

                                  As to the M570 I was working with out of date documentation.

                                  It turns out with current firmware it appears you have to have a H parameter to set/report on a given heater.

                                  Frederick

                                  Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                  • fcwiltundefined
                                    fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                    @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                    The thing that keeps confusing me is that this is a very standard-issue setup. Running all standard E3D + Duet hardware, and running a stable release of the firmware.

                                    It most certainly is confusing but I would not be surprised if we are overlooking something that should be obvious.

                                    Frederick

                                    Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                    • KevinMarundefined
                                      KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                      @fcwilt Me too, but I've been digging

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                                        KevinMar @KevinMar
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                                        • fcwiltundefined
                                          fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                          @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                          @fcwilt Me too, but I've been digging

                                          When I'm faced with something like this I resort to a process of elimination, thus my suggestion to configure just one heater to see if it changes anything.

                                          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                          • KevinMarundefined
                                            KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                            @fcwilt I've commented out all heaters except H2, autotuning now.
                                            "M308 S2 P"21.temp0" Y"pt1000" A"Ex1"
                                            M950 H2 C"21.out0" T2 ; Heater for extruder out tool 1
                                            M307 H2 R2.050 C309.100:130.600 D6.20 S1.00 V24.3 B0
                                            M570 H2 P10 T25 S0.1"

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