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    • fcwiltundefined
      fcwilt
      last edited by

      Hi,

      I've been using the "dupont" connectors for so long I really haven't paid attention to what else is out there.

      Those Molex units look sensible if you can cope with the somewhat larger size.

      Frederick

      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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      • sebkritikelundefined
        sebkritikel
        last edited by

        I like Molex Microfit 3.0 as well as Molex SL series for my in-line connections.

        Large(ish?) IDEX - 6HC, 1HCL
        Stratasys Dimension 1200es to 6HC Conversion

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        • jens55undefined
          jens55 @fcwilt
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          @fcwilt I find that the dupont style connector does not have enough current handling capacity for the hot end heater if it is a 12V system. The connectors in the stepper circuit seem ok but because of my experience with the heater line, I can't recommend dupont for a 12V system.
          Commented only for future users referencing this post.
          As always, YMMV

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          • fcwiltundefined
            fcwilt @jens55
            last edited by

            @jens55 said in 3D Printer Connectors - What's best for in-line connections?:

            @fcwilt I find that the dupont style connector does not have enough current handling capacity for the hot end heater if it is a 12V system. The connectors in the stepper circuit seem ok but because of my experience with the heater line, I can't recommend dupont for a 12V system.

            It seems that heater cartridges have much longer wires than things like fans and thermistors.

            I cannot recall actually having to extend a heater.

            Frederick

            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            • zaptaundefined
              zapta @timothyz
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              @timothyz said in 3D Printer Connectors - What's best for in-line connections?:

              no male and female, but insertion is one way

              That's not necessarily good. The gender often prevent you from connecting thing that shouldn't be connected. For example, with RC batteries you want to be able to connect a battery to load but not to another battery. Same goes for connecting two Duet driver outputs to each other.

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              • timothyzundefined
                timothyz @zapta
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                @zapta
                That's understandable, with this really being focused to the hotend, I guess I would be able to connect a fan outputs to another fan outputs if I wired them to two pin connectors. Looking at the size of everything, there really isn't much difference so I'll probably buy some more microfit 3.0 connectors (they are basically the same size as nanofit, weirdly enough).

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                • fcwiltundefined
                  fcwilt @zapta
                  last edited by

                  @zapta said in 3D Printer Connectors - What's best for in-line connections?:

                  That's not necessarily good. The gender often prevent you from connecting thing that shouldn't be connected.

                  You would have to use connectors with different numbers of pins for each "class" of device - not ideal.

                  Frederick

                  Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                  • o_lampeundefined
                    o_lampe
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                    I don't like crimp connectors.
                    You never have the right crimp tool at hand (at home) nor can be sure, the cable has the right wire gauge (AmericanWireGauge [AWG] or metric system)
                    I solder everything and protect it with shrinktube.

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                    • fcwiltundefined
                      fcwilt @o_lampe
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                      @o_lampe said in 3D Printer Connectors - What's best for in-line connections?:

                      You never have the right crimp tool at hand (at home) nor can be sure, the cable has the right wire gauge (AmericanWireGauge [AWG] or metric system)

                      Look in my tool drawer - I think you will find the crimper you need - if you rummage around long enough.

                      😉

                      Frederick

                      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                      • Vetiundefined
                        Veti @o_lampe
                        last edited by

                        @o_lampe said in 3D Printer Connectors - What's best for in-line connections?:

                        You never have the right crimp tool at hand (at home)

                        i can crimp nearly everything 3d printer related with the engineer pa-09

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                        • jens55undefined
                          jens55
                          last edited by

                          Crimp connections are more reliable if done correctly. If you can't do them right then soldering is likely better for you.

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                          • hackinistratorundefined
                            hackinistrator
                            last edited by

                            properly crimped connectors are better then soldered , specially on high speed moving parts like 3d printer .

                            i use molex and AMP connectors . for high current heaters (no longer use them , moved to mains powered) i used RC soldered connectors like XT60 and XT30 .

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                            • taconiteundefined
                              taconite
                              last edited by

                              I personally hate dupont but e.g. for stepper wires its super conveniant because you can change direction.
                              On heaters I use Molex Micro fit or Mini fit Jr.

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                              • Vetiundefined
                                Veti @taconite
                                last edited by

                                i use Molex Micro fit for heaters as well.

                                for other i use jst locking ones
                                https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32856368582.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dyysxU1

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                                • zaptaundefined
                                  zapta @hackinistrator
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                                  @hackinistrator said in 3D Printer Connectors - What's best for in-line connections?:

                                  i used RC soldered connectors like XT60 and XT30

                                  I got recently this version of XT60 with the black covers and like it more than the older shrink tube version.

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                                  Other interesting high current connector are Anderson Powerpole https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anderson_Powerpole which are modular and genderless.

                                  Apropos connectors, WhamBam came recently with an interesting 3D printer gantry connector system https://whambamsystems.com/mutant

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                                  • theruttmeisterundefined
                                    theruttmeister @zapta
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                                    @zapta said in [3D Printer Connectors - What's best for in-line connections?](/post

                                    Apropos connectors, WhamBam came recently with an interesting 3D printer gantry connector system https://whambamsystems.com/mutant

                                    Shame they can't design a belt drive correctly... 😬

                                    Isolate, substitute, verify.

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                                    • sebkritikelundefined
                                      sebkritikel
                                      last edited by

                                      And if you don't want to crimp...

                                      https://www.amphenol-industrial.com/images/catalogs/PT.pdf

                                      https://www.peigenesis.com/en/shop/part-information/PT01E84PSR/APH/EACH/69387.html#mates
                                      https://www.peigenesis.com/en/shop/part-information/PT06A84SSR/APH/EACH/72221.html

                                      Could get worse!

                                      Large(ish?) IDEX - 6HC, 1HCL
                                      Stratasys Dimension 1200es to 6HC Conversion

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                                      • jens55undefined
                                        jens55
                                        last edited by

                                        I know this is an old topic but I have a relevant update:
                                        I started with Dupont style connections for the hot end heater for my 12V based printer. That caused all kinds of grief fairly quickly due to overheating of the connector (40W heater). I then went to a JST style interlocking connector. That worked for a while but is again causing failures due to overheating of the connector.
                                        Up to now, these connectors where sourced from China .... and are costing me way more in frustration and spoiled prints than they are worth.

                                        My next and hopefully final connector style will be a genuine Molex Microfit 3.0 connection system sourced from Digikey. I just had a print abort after about 4 hours of printing and it just isn't worth the pain and suffering any more.
                                        Even at ten times the price of the China product, it's worth it if it fixes this mess!

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                                        • o_lampeundefined
                                          o_lampe @jens55
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                                          @jens55
                                          dc42 also suggested to use the MicroFit 3.0, but I couldn't find a reseller (accepting paypal) with all the required parts in Stock. I guess, the German/EU components-market is empty, due to the well known issues. (and the supercontainership blocking Suez-channel forever)

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                                          • PaulHewundefined
                                            PaulHew @o_lampe
                                            last edited by

                                            @o_lampe All my printers use Microfit 3.
                                            In the UK I can get them from CPC, Farnell and if I have a big enough order Mouser.

                                            I use DuPont for things like accelerator where it is not a permanent fixture.

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