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    • sebkritikelundefined
      sebkritikel
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      I like Molex Microfit 3.0 as well as Molex SL series for my in-line connections.

      Large(ish?) IDEX - 6HC, 1HCL
      Stratasys Dimension 1200es to 6HC Conversion

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      • jens55undefined
        jens55 @fcwilt
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        @fcwilt I find that the dupont style connector does not have enough current handling capacity for the hot end heater if it is a 12V system. The connectors in the stepper circuit seem ok but because of my experience with the heater line, I can't recommend dupont for a 12V system.
        Commented only for future users referencing this post.
        As always, YMMV

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        • fcwiltundefined
          fcwilt @jens55
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          @jens55 said in 3D Printer Connectors - What's best for in-line connections?:

          @fcwilt I find that the dupont style connector does not have enough current handling capacity for the hot end heater if it is a 12V system. The connectors in the stepper circuit seem ok but because of my experience with the heater line, I can't recommend dupont for a 12V system.

          It seems that heater cartridges have much longer wires than things like fans and thermistors.

          I cannot recall actually having to extend a heater.

          Frederick

          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          • zaptaundefined
            zapta @timothyz
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            @timothyz said in 3D Printer Connectors - What's best for in-line connections?:

            no male and female, but insertion is one way

            That's not necessarily good. The gender often prevent you from connecting thing that shouldn't be connected. For example, with RC batteries you want to be able to connect a battery to load but not to another battery. Same goes for connecting two Duet driver outputs to each other.

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            • timothyzundefined
              timothyz @zapta
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              @zapta
              That's understandable, with this really being focused to the hotend, I guess I would be able to connect a fan outputs to another fan outputs if I wired them to two pin connectors. Looking at the size of everything, there really isn't much difference so I'll probably buy some more microfit 3.0 connectors (they are basically the same size as nanofit, weirdly enough).

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              • fcwiltundefined
                fcwilt @zapta
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                @zapta said in 3D Printer Connectors - What's best for in-line connections?:

                That's not necessarily good. The gender often prevent you from connecting thing that shouldn't be connected.

                You would have to use connectors with different numbers of pins for each "class" of device - not ideal.

                Frederick

                Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                • o_lampeundefined
                  o_lampe
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                  I don't like crimp connectors.
                  You never have the right crimp tool at hand (at home) nor can be sure, the cable has the right wire gauge (AmericanWireGauge [AWG] or metric system)
                  I solder everything and protect it with shrinktube.

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                  • fcwiltundefined
                    fcwilt @o_lampe
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                    @o_lampe said in 3D Printer Connectors - What's best for in-line connections?:

                    You never have the right crimp tool at hand (at home) nor can be sure, the cable has the right wire gauge (AmericanWireGauge [AWG] or metric system)

                    Look in my tool drawer - I think you will find the crimper you need - if you rummage around long enough.

                    😉

                    Frederick

                    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                    • Vetiundefined
                      Veti @o_lampe
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                      @o_lampe said in 3D Printer Connectors - What's best for in-line connections?:

                      You never have the right crimp tool at hand (at home)

                      i can crimp nearly everything 3d printer related with the engineer pa-09

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                      • jens55undefined
                        jens55
                        last edited by

                        Crimp connections are more reliable if done correctly. If you can't do them right then soldering is likely better for you.

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                        • hackinistratorundefined
                          hackinistrator
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                          properly crimped connectors are better then soldered , specially on high speed moving parts like 3d printer .

                          i use molex and AMP connectors . for high current heaters (no longer use them , moved to mains powered) i used RC soldered connectors like XT60 and XT30 .

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                          • taconiteundefined
                            taconite
                            last edited by

                            I personally hate dupont but e.g. for stepper wires its super conveniant because you can change direction.
                            On heaters I use Molex Micro fit or Mini fit Jr.

                            Custom ANET A8
                            Custom Delta: D-PATCH (Delta Printer with Automatic Tool CHanging) https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/16082/d-patch?_=1596131234754

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                            • Vetiundefined
                              Veti @taconite
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                              i use Molex Micro fit for heaters as well.

                              for other i use jst locking ones
                              https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32856368582.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dyysxU1

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                              • zaptaundefined
                                zapta @hackinistrator
                                last edited by

                                @hackinistrator said in 3D Printer Connectors - What's best for in-line connections?:

                                i used RC soldered connectors like XT60 and XT30

                                I got recently this version of XT60 with the black covers and like it more than the older shrink tube version.

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                                Other interesting high current connector are Anderson Powerpole https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anderson_Powerpole which are modular and genderless.

                                Apropos connectors, WhamBam came recently with an interesting 3D printer gantry connector system https://whambamsystems.com/mutant

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                                • theruttmeisterundefined
                                  theruttmeister @zapta
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                                  @zapta said in [3D Printer Connectors - What's best for in-line connections?](/post

                                  Apropos connectors, WhamBam came recently with an interesting 3D printer gantry connector system https://whambamsystems.com/mutant

                                  Shame they can't design a belt drive correctly... 😬

                                  Isolate, substitute, verify.

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                                  • sebkritikelundefined
                                    sebkritikel
                                    last edited by

                                    And if you don't want to crimp...

                                    https://www.amphenol-industrial.com/images/catalogs/PT.pdf

                                    https://www.peigenesis.com/en/shop/part-information/PT01E84PSR/APH/EACH/69387.html#mates
                                    https://www.peigenesis.com/en/shop/part-information/PT06A84SSR/APH/EACH/72221.html

                                    Could get worse!

                                    Large(ish?) IDEX - 6HC, 1HCL
                                    Stratasys Dimension 1200es to 6HC Conversion

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                                    • jens55undefined
                                      jens55
                                      last edited by

                                      I know this is an old topic but I have a relevant update:
                                      I started with Dupont style connections for the hot end heater for my 12V based printer. That caused all kinds of grief fairly quickly due to overheating of the connector (40W heater). I then went to a JST style interlocking connector. That worked for a while but is again causing failures due to overheating of the connector.
                                      Up to now, these connectors where sourced from China .... and are costing me way more in frustration and spoiled prints than they are worth.

                                      My next and hopefully final connector style will be a genuine Molex Microfit 3.0 connection system sourced from Digikey. I just had a print abort after about 4 hours of printing and it just isn't worth the pain and suffering any more.
                                      Even at ten times the price of the China product, it's worth it if it fixes this mess!

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                                      • o_lampeundefined
                                        o_lampe @jens55
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                                        @jens55
                                        dc42 also suggested to use the MicroFit 3.0, but I couldn't find a reseller (accepting paypal) with all the required parts in Stock. I guess, the German/EU components-market is empty, due to the well known issues. (and the supercontainership blocking Suez-channel forever)

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                                        • PaulHewundefined
                                          PaulHew @o_lampe
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                                          @o_lampe All my printers use Microfit 3.
                                          In the UK I can get them from CPC, Farnell and if I have a big enough order Mouser.

                                          I use DuPont for things like accelerator where it is not a permanent fixture.

                                          RailCore II - Duet Mini + 1LC, Voron V0.1 - Duet Mini
                                          Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

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                                          • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                                            DIY-O-Sphere @o_lampe
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                                            @o_lampe
                                            Reichelt....

                                            (UTC+1)

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