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    • pabomanundefined
      paboman
      last edited by

      What is the best way to use a 12v cooling fan (no pwm) on a 24v duet system ?

      Do I really need stepdown converter ?

      I ask beacuse good quality 30x30 fans (Sunon and RS pro) are available in 12 and 5 volts only.

      BTW if you know any vendor of 30x30x10 24v fan with at least 5CFM of airflow let me know please

      thx!

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      • jay_s_ukundefined
        jay_s_uk
        last edited by

        duet 3 boards allow you to set the fan output voltage to either 12v or 24v.
        older boards will need a stepdown/buck converter

        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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        • pabomanundefined
          paboman @jay_s_uk
          last edited by

          @jay_s_uk said in Best way to 12v fan on 24v system:

          duet 3 boards allow you to set the fan output voltage to either 12v or 24v.
          older boards will need a stepdown/buck converter

          thx, for now I have an older duet system

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          • jay_s_ukundefined
            jay_s_uk
            last edited by

            then yes, you will need one unfortunately.
            run the buck converter off the same PSU as the Duet. Connect the positive of the fan to the positive of the converter. Connect the negative of the fan to the ground of the fan connection.

            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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            • pabomanundefined
              paboman
              last edited by

              ok , thx!

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              • Joelundefined
                Joel
                last edited by

                Can you run 2 fans, do them in series?

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                • Blacksheep99undefined
                  Blacksheep99
                  last edited by

                  Maestro can run 24v and 5v. You haven't said which board you have.

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                  • botundefined
                    bot
                    last edited by

                    Duex addons allow 12 V fans on 24 V system. Feel like adding some axes to your machine?

                    *not actually a robot

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                    • Vetiundefined
                      Veti
                      last edited by

                      see
                      https://www.blvprojects.com/blv-mgn-cube-3d-printer?pgid=k8hkwn62-378a696b-a7f1-46b5-9e6c-1290261fa468

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by

                        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_and_configuring_fans#Section_Using_12V_fans_when_VIN_is_24V

                        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                        • pabomanundefined
                          paboman @Blacksheep99
                          last edited by

                          @Blacksheep99
                          does Maestro have a voltage converter ? So can I drive the system with 24 v and cooling fan with 5 to 24v ?

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                          • pabomanundefined
                            paboman @bot
                            last edited by

                            @bot not yet but thank you for the input !

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                            • pabomanundefined
                              paboman @Veti
                              last edited by

                              @Veti
                              thx!

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                              • pabomanundefined
                                paboman @Phaedrux
                                last edited by

                                @Phaedrux said in Best way to 12v fan on 24v system:

                                https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_and_configuring_fans#Section_Using_12V_fans_when_VIN_is_24V

                                thx !

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                                • mendenmhundefined
                                  mendenmh
                                  last edited by mendenmh

                                  If it's a fixed-speed fan (not PWM), you could probably just use a dropping resistor. Measure the fan current, and set the resistance for a 12V drop. R=12/I where I is the current in amps. A buck converter is nice, but for a low-power load, where you don't care about efficiency, it's a bit of overkill.

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                                  • zaptaundefined
                                    zapta @paboman
                                    last edited by zapta

                                    @paboman said in Best way to 12v fan on 24v system:

                                    Sunon and RS pro are available in 12 and 5 volts only.

                                    I had the same need (Sunon 12V) and a buck converter solved the problem. Sunon fans are much better than cheap Chinese fans and worth the trouble IMO.

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                                    • Blacksheep99undefined
                                      Blacksheep99 @paboman
                                      last edited by

                                      @paboman said in Best way to 12v fan on 24v system:

                                      @Blacksheep99
                                      does Maestro have a voltage converter ? So can I drive the system with 24 v and cooling fan with 5 to 24v ?

                                      There is a jumper for fan 2 so you can run the others at VIN and that at 5v. I do this on my printer. I use a Noctua 5v and the part cooling fan is a 50mm blower.

                                      https://d17kynu4zpq5hy.cloudfront.net/igi/duet3d/x1wYdbGAsbWWvlqT.huge

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                                      • mrehorstdmdundefined
                                        mrehorstdmd
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                                        I always keep some of these on hand for powering fans, LEDs, etc. https://www.amazon.com/EBL-MP1584EN-Converter-Adjustable-Supply/dp/B08GSJVPB2/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=buck+converter&qid=1615381025&sr=8-6

                                        They're dirt cheap, very small, very efficient, and seem to be reliable, but be very careful with the voltage adjustment pot. They're small and light enough that you don't have to mount them on anything- after you set the output voltage, just cover the whole thing with shrink tubing and treat it as part of the cable.

                                        https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/

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                                        • lord binkyundefined
                                          lord binky @zapta
                                          last edited by lord binky

                                          @zapta I second the sunon fans. They last, and come in high CFM or low CFM for quieter.

                                          I personally think the best way is to put wire two 12V in series though 😄 more fans! ( Edit: 😇 OK ok, I was being facetious there and I'll clarify this is NOT the way to do it, but the responses did bring me a smile 👿 )

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                                          • zaptaundefined
                                            zapta @lord binky
                                            last edited by

                                            @lord-binky said in Best way to 12v fan on 24v system:

                                            I personally think the best way is to put wire two 12V in series though more fans!

                                            It may work, assuming the two fans identical (same current consumption) and if PWM controlled, are subject to the same control.

                                            (I have no experience with multiple fans in serial so don't know for sure).

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