Best way to 12v fan on 24v system

jay_s_uk

then yes, you will need one unfortunately.
run the buck converter off the same PSU as the Duet. Connect the positive of the fan to the positive of the converter. Connect the negative of the fan to the ground of the fan connection.

paboman

ok , thx!

Joel

Can you run 2 fans, do them in series?

Blacksheep99

Maestro can run 24v and 5v. You haven't said which board you have.

bot

Duex addons allow 12 V fans on 24 V system. Feel like adding some axes to your machine?

Veti

see
https://www.blvprojects.com/blv-mgn-cube-3d-printer?pgid=k8hkwn62-378a696b-a7f1-46b5-9e6c-1290261fa468

Phaedrux

https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_and_configuring_fans#Section_Using_12V_fans_when_VIN_is_24V

paboman

@Blacksheep99
does Maestro have a voltage converter ? So can I drive the system with 24 v and cooling fan with 5 to 24v ?

paboman

@bot not yet but thank you for the input !

paboman

@Veti
thx!

paboman

@Phaedrux said in Best way to 12v fan on 24v system:

https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_and_configuring_fans#Section_Using_12V_fans_when_VIN_is_24V

thx !

mendenmh

If it's a fixed-speed fan (not PWM), you could probably just use a dropping resistor. Measure the fan current, and set the resistance for a 12V drop. R=12/I where I is the current in amps. A buck converter is nice, but for a low-power load, where you don't care about efficiency, it's a bit of overkill.

zapta

@paboman said in Best way to 12v fan on 24v system:

Sunon and RS pro are available in 12 and 5 volts only.

I had the same need (Sunon 12V) and a buck converter solved the problem. Sunon fans are much better than cheap Chinese fans and worth the trouble IMO.

Blacksheep99

@paboman said in Best way to 12v fan on 24v system:

@Blacksheep99
does Maestro have a voltage converter ? So can I drive the system with 24 v and cooling fan with 5 to 24v ?

There is a jumper for fan 2 so you can run the others at VIN and that at 5v. I do this on my printer. I use a Noctua 5v and the part cooling fan is a 50mm blower.

https://d17kynu4zpq5hy.cloudfront.net/igi/duet3d/x1wYdbGAsbWWvlqT.huge

mrehorstdmd

I always keep some of these on hand for powering fans, LEDs, etc. https://www.amazon.com/EBL-MP1584EN-Converter-Adjustable-Supply/dp/B08GSJVPB2/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=buck+converter&qid=1615381025&sr=8-6

They're dirt cheap, very small, very efficient, and seem to be reliable, but be very careful with the voltage adjustment pot. They're small and light enough that you don't have to mount them on anything- after you set the output voltage, just cover the whole thing with shrink tubing and treat it as part of the cable.

lord binky

@zapta I second the sunon fans. They last, and come in high CFM or low CFM for quieter.

I personally think the best way is to put wire two 12V in series though more fans! ( Edit: OK ok, I was being facetious there and I'll clarify this is NOT the way to do it, but the responses did bring me a smile )

zapta

@lord-binky said in Best way to 12v fan on 24v system:

I personally think the best way is to put wire two 12V in series though more fans!

It may work, assuming the two fans identical (same current consumption) and if PWM controlled, are subject to the same control.

(I have no experience with multiple fans in serial so don't know for sure).

Veti

its risky and could lead to problems if one fan is blocked

o_lampe

@lord-binky
The FETs on the fans have to withstand 24V when switched, no matter if the fans are in series. Unfortunately it's not like series resistors...

Phaedrux

@lord-binky said in Best way to 12v fan on 24v system:

more fans!

Do you mean buying more fans cause you blew them up with over voltage?