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    apak @dc42
    last edited by 14 Apr 2021, 07:12

    @dc42 in that case I will try this breakboard, shorter pads
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      o_lampe @apak
      last edited by 14 Apr 2021, 08:40

      @apak
      The positions of some 'vias' are pretty close to adjacent pads. The routing could use some cleaning...

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        apak @o_lampe
        last edited by 14 Apr 2021, 09:30

        @o_lampe I have no tecnical education, I used the autoroute feature. Already ordered.

        First pcb disconnects from wifi once you start to print....so DON´T use first PCB

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          jay_s_uk @apak
          last edited by 14 Apr 2021, 09:31

          @apak have you included any resistors that may be required?

          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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            apak @jay_s_uk
            last edited by 14 Apr 2021, 10:04

            @jay_s_uk nope

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              jay_s_uk @apak
              last edited by 14 Apr 2021, 10:10

              @apak i suggest you review the schematics.
              I don't know what resistors aren't included onboard when its the ethernet module and some may be required to be added on certain lines.

              Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                apak @jay_s_uk
                last edited by 14 Apr 2021, 10:17

                @jay_s_uk don´t see any, looks like direct pin contact between "comm alternate header" and ESP pins
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                  jay_s_uk @apak
                  last edited by 14 Apr 2021, 10:19

                  @apak what about these ones i've highlighted in red?
                  These are the ones that probably won't be there on an ethernet board.
                  I only have wifi boards here so can't check.
                  maybe @T3P3Tony or @dc42 can comment?
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                  Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                    dc42 administrators @jay_s_uk
                    last edited by 14 Apr 2021, 10:21

                    The other thing that may be missing on an Ethernet board is the 74HC74 chip. However, if you use wifi firmware 1.24 or later then you can bypass it by installing R82.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                      apak @jay_s_uk
                      last edited by apak 14 Apr 2021, 10:50

                      @jay_s_uk all that should be already on the duet board, we are talking to direct pin contact between alt comm ports and the esp solder traces...

                      At this point I point out that I have just converted ethernet clone boards to esp-07s so far with no trouble, but soldering the esp to the board traces

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                        jay_s_uk @apak
                        last edited by 14 Apr 2021, 10:53

                        @apak fair enough. It's just not what the schematics implies

                        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                          apak @jay_s_uk
                          last edited by 15 Apr 2021, 08:59

                          @apak photo_2021-04-15_10-57-54.jpg
                          seems everything is in place, also the 74HC74

                          guess that the chinnese clons just install everything for the wifi version and then just plug the ethernet board

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                            arhi @alankilian
                            last edited by 19 Apr 2021, 06:40

                            @alankilian said in ethernet to esp breakboard:

                            @apak If you ever want to do this kind of thing again, you might want to use these surface-mount 0.1" header pins.
                            https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/oupiin/2015-1X40G01DBB/13251225

                            pay attention that these are not super strong and that, especially with 3 raw's of pins, removing the board from the socket requires a lot of force and it can rip the pins off the board ... happened to me too many times to count 😞 that I avoid using the smd .1" pins any time I can

                            taking into account how free the boards at jlcpcb are I'd go with 4 layer, put all the traces inside and ground on the outside, it should help with EMI and the behavior of the ESP module and would not change the price of the board significantly

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                              apak @arhi
                              last edited by apak 26 Apr 2021, 08:35

                              @arhi
                              I had to make my own pin strip since on my local store didn´t have them

                              It´s working fine, no disconnections while printing like with the first prototype

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                                arhi @apak
                                last edited by 26 Apr 2021, 09:46

                                @apak said in ethernet to esp breakboard:

                                no disconnections while printing like with the first prototype

                                I have never seen those disconnect from vibrations, I had them rip out the pads when you try to remove them from the header

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                                  apak @arhi
                                  last edited by 26 Apr 2021, 10:08

                                  @arhi I meant the the first prototype had wifi disconections due to long tracks, this one has shorter pads, and looks like it works just fine while printing. The first one just didn´t work while printing

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                                    alankilian @apak
                                    last edited by 26 Apr 2021, 11:25

                                    @apak Excellent work.

                                    It's great to see prototypes make progress to working products.

                                    SeemeCNC Rostock Max V3 converted to V3.2 with a Duet2 Ethernet Firmware 3.2 and SE300

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                                      arhi @apak
                                      last edited by 26 Apr 2021, 11:35

                                      @apak glad to hear, I assumed since you tagged me you were talking about other stuff :D, but yes, I mentioned both things so makes sense 🙂 ... great that it works!!! I myself converted few from wifi to eth 😄 I hate wifi on static equipment

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                                        CNCModeller @apak
                                        last edited by CNCModeller 26 Apr 2021, 21:35

                                        @apak

                                        That looks the part alright. Can you please share the PCB design so I can order one for my Duet?

                                        Many thanks
                                        Barry M

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                                          apak @CNCModeller
                                          last edited by apak 27 Apr 2021, 14:38

                                          @cncmodeller

                                          do it at your own risk!!! 🙂
                                          https://easyupload.io/cbfp23

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