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    • Dougal1957undefined
      Dougal1957 @fcwilt
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      @fcwilt I do use PT1000 and 100's as well and do prefer them and don't have any need for the additional Params as yet but we will see Hopefully Kevin gets it all sorted

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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt @Dougal1957
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        @dougal1957 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

        @fcwilt I do use PT1000 and 100's as well and do prefer them and don't have any need for the additional Params as yet but we will see Hopefully Kevin gets it all sorted

        Do those devices require additional hardware to connect to a Duet board?

        Frederick

        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • Dougal1957undefined
          Dougal1957 @fcwilt
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          @fcwilt said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

          @dougal1957 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

          @fcwilt I do use PT1000 and 100's as well and do prefer them and don't have any need for the additional Params as yet but we will see Hopefully Kevin gets it all sorted

          Do those devices require additional hardware to connect to a Duet board?

          Frederick

          pt1000 no but the pt100 does need the daughter board

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          • KevinMarundefined
            KevinMar @fcwilt
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            • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
              DIY-O-Sphere @fcwilt
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              @fcwilt
              Not required for PT1000 on Duet3 and Maestro

              (UTC+1)

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              • Dougal1957undefined
                Dougal1957 @DIY-O-Sphere
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                @diy-o-sphere said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                @fcwilt
                Not required for PT1000 on Duet3 and Maestro

                nor on a wifi/ethernet duet 2 board either just not quite as accurate due to the 4k7 sense resistor rather than the 2k2 one

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                • KevinMarundefined
                  KevinMar @Dougal1957
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                  @dougal1957
                  New parameters: M307 H2 R2.050 C309.100:130.600 D6.20 S1.00 V24.3 B0

                  Another fault:
                  a7bfeaa3-3de6-45da-b0c3-b7227392578c-image.png

                  (I had been using the fan to cool the hotend down, so ignore values before 11:00)

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                  • fcwiltundefined
                    fcwilt @KevinMar
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                    @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                    @dougal1957
                    New parameters: M307 H2 R2.050 C309.100:130.600 D6.20 S1.00 V24.3 B0

                    Another fault:
                    a7bfeaa3-3de6-45da-b0c3-b7227392578c-image.png

                    (I had been using the fan to cool the hotend down, so ignore values before 11:00)

                    Did you check your config-override.g file to see if it included M307 commands?

                    Frederick

                    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                    • KevinMarundefined
                      KevinMar @fcwilt
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                      @fcwilt it included M307 commands that were generated from the autotuning and saved using M500

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt @KevinMar
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                        @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                        @fcwilt it included M307 commands that were generated from the autotuning and saved using M500

                        So we can ignore the ones in your config.g file?

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • KevinMarundefined
                          KevinMar @fcwilt
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                          @fcwilt They're identical

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                          • fcwiltundefined
                            fcwilt @KevinMar
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                            @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                            @fcwilt They're identical

                            So you copied the lines from the config-override.g file and put them into your config.g file?

                            I assume you re-booted.

                            Frederick

                            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                            • KevinMarundefined
                              KevinMar @fcwilt
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                              @fcwilt Affirmative

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                              • fcwiltundefined
                                fcwilt @KevinMar
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                                @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                @fcwilt Affirmative

                                Strange problem you are having.

                                You posted a screen shot showing heaters Ex0, Ex1 and Ex3 faulted.

                                Were all three heating at the time?

                                Frederick

                                Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                                  DIY-O-Sphere @fcwilt
                                  last edited by DIY-O-Sphere

                                  @KevinMar

                                  M308 S1 P"20.temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 A"Ex0"

                                  On T0 you use a thermistor but not with the other tools?
                                  What is your tuning command.

                                  (UTC+1)

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                                  • KevinMarundefined
                                    KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                    @fcwilt Yes, all 3 faulted (nearly) simultaneously, when heating is initiated simultaneously

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                                    • KevinMarundefined
                                      KevinMar @DIY-O-Sphere
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                                      @diy-o-sphere Changed to thermistor (actually changed hardware) just to try troubleshooting

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                                      • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                                        DIY-O-Sphere @KevinMar
                                        last edited by DIY-O-Sphere

                                        @kevinmar
                                        CAN addresses set correctly?

                                        (UTC+1)

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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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                                          @kevinmar did you see my comment about retuning with a silicone sock in place, and my suggestion to reduce the M307 R parameter?

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                          • KevinMarundefined
                                            KevinMar @dc42
                                            last edited by KevinMar

                                            @dc42 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                            If after re-tuning with the silicone sock on (if necessary) the heaters still fault, you can try reducing the M307 R parameter. Try a 30% reduction.

                                            I added the sock, retuned, and it still faulted.

                                            I reduced R from 2 to 1.5 and even to 1.0 and it didn't help

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