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    Argo @dc42
    last edited by 26 Mar 2022, 21:20

    @dc42

    Differences I see compared to Klipper right now:

    • separate shaper frequency for each axis

    • automatic resonance testing (with a accelerometer): Klipper firmware generates vibrations from lower to higher frequencies and tests each shaper for it‘s effectiveness at each frequency. The results and recommendations are then displayed in a graph. It also recommends maximum acceleration values.
      Example:

    721e564d-2a11-405f-a5e4-4aaa59d925df-image.png https://www.klipper3d.org/img/calibrate-y.png

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      dc42 administrators @Argo
      last edited by 27 Mar 2022, 06:56

      @argo separate shaper per axis is not only unnecessary (because the supported shapers cover frequency ranges of up to 3:1), it is a bad idea because if you use different shape on different axes then the motion of the axes will no longer be synchronised during acceleration and deceleration. This will result in print artefacts, for example on corners that are not aligned with the axes.

      I already said that we are continuing work on the input shaping plugin to make tuning IS easier.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        zapta @dc42
        last edited by 27 Mar 2022, 15:41

        @dc42 said in Software bundle 3.4.0 stable released!:

        it is a bad idea because if you use different shape on different axes then the motion of the axes will no longer be synchronised

        How about a single input shaping that is direction dependent? That is, some interpolation for angles between X only and Y only?

        (I don't know how input shaping works, just thinking loud).

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          chrishamm administrators @zapta
          last edited by 28 Mar 2022, 20:04

          @zapta Applying two different input shapers on two axes has certain downsides so we decided it would be better to support only a single input shaper for two axes to damp both ringing frequencies.

          We have a first beta of a new input shaping plugin ready but we need to discuss a few more details internally before we eventually release it. I expect we'll publish it sometime this week.

          Duet software engineer

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            samlogan87 @chrishamm
            last edited by 28 Mar 2022, 20:43

            @chrishamm looking forward to this

            Custom Core-XY

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              zapta @chrishamm
              last edited by 29 Mar 2022, 02:20

              @chrishamm said in Software bundle 3.4.0 stable released!:

              Applying two different input shapers on two axes has certain downsides

              I was thinking about a single input shaper but in direction of movement rather than direction of axises. Here is an example, let's say that you want to optimize a 45deg movement in a cartesian printer. You run the input shaping calibration process with moves in 45deg, analyze to determine frequencies and IS parameters, and then when you move in 45%, you use that input shaper. Now imagine that you test IS for direction in 45deg increment and when you move for example in direction of 50deg, you use some interpolation to determine the input shaping in that direction.

              (I must say that I don't know how input shaping works but my understanding that it's some kind of modulation of the movement which can be applied for movements in any directions)

              Does this make sense?

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                dc42 administrators @zapta
                last edited by 29 Mar 2022, 10:12

                @zapta given that the input shapers supported by RRF have effective bandwidths of up to 3:1, it's not necessary to do anything as complex as that.

                To get a 3:1 ratio of resonant frequencies on the X and Y axes, and assuming X and Y axes use belts of approximately equal width, length and tension, you would need a mass ratio of 9:1. That's higher than you are likely to get even in a large bed slinger.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  zapta @dc42
                  last edited by 29 Mar 2022, 16:44

                  @dc42, thanks for the explanation.

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                    SputnikOC3d @dc42
                    last edited by SputnikOC3d 4 Apr 2022, 06:01 4 Apr 2022, 06:00

                    @dc42 - this release seems to be breaking my Nozzle Heater on the 1LC.

                    my lonely forum post

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                      damaged_goods @dc42
                      last edited by 9 Apr 2022, 18:02

                      @dc42 Hey David. Thanks to you and others for all the work you are putting into reprap.
                      As a Prusa user I am use to being spoon fed firmware and Slicer settings. Is there a Reprap Slicer that the community finds works best?
                      Thanks again.

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                        BoA @damaged_goods
                        last edited by 9 Apr 2022, 18:32

                        @damaged_goods I use Prusa Slicer - it works perfectly fine.

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                          zapta @damaged_goods
                          last edited by zapta 4 Oct 2022, 01:58 10 Apr 2022, 01:57

                          @damaged_goods said in Software bundle 3.4.0 stable released!:

                          Is there a Reprap Slicer that the community finds works best?

                          For what printer and what Duet board? Duet3d Mini5 on Prusa MK3?

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                            Schickfus
                            last edited by 10 Apr 2022, 02:06

                            Hi,

                            I have a MB6HC with a SBC-Rasbarry Pi 4.

                            I am using the apt-get update / apt-get upgrade. It says that nothing to upgrade. But when I try the M115 command it says firmware 3.2.2

                            Do I do something wrong?

                            I have been following the documentation.

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                              damaged_goods @BoA
                              last edited by 10 Apr 2022, 10:33

                              @boa Thank you,

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                                damaged_goods @zapta
                                last edited by 10 Apr 2022, 10:38

                                @zapta It's a custom built very large printer with a duet 3 MB6HC.

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                                  jay_s_uk @Schickfus
                                  last edited by 10 Apr 2022, 10:40

                                  @schickfus can you open a separate thread for your issue please

                                  Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                    Schickfus @jay_s_uk
                                    last edited by 10 Apr 2022, 12:16

                                    @jay_s_uk ok

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                                      Stephen6309 @damaged_goods
                                      last edited by 10 Apr 2022, 12:58

                                      @damaged_goods I use SuperSlicer. https://github.com/supermerill/SuperSlicer/releases

                                      It has thumbnails compatible with the PanelDue.

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                                        tfjield
                                        last edited by 13 Jun 2022, 20:51

                                        @dc42 said in Software bundle 3.4.0 stable released!:

                                        Thumbnail

                                        Anyone know how to get thumbnail generation in Cura?

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                                          oliof @tfjield
                                          last edited by 13 Jun 2022, 20:53

                                          @tfjield Install the RRF plugin for Cura.

                                          <>RatRig V-Minion Fly Super5Pro RRF<> V-Core 3.1 IDEX k*****r <> RatRig V-Minion SKR 2 Marlin<>

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