[Revo] New hot end system from E3D?

[zapta]

Thanks @jay_s_uk.

[TimsWorkshop]

I also know that Microswiss is releasing a new hotend soon as well

[achrn]

@jay_s_uk said in New hot end system from E3D?:

@zapta https://www.tct3sixty.com/event/en/page/home

... and some recognizable faces and/or logos on https://www.tct3sixty.com/event/en/page/take-part

[T3P3Tony]

@achrn yep, although we are visiting not exhibiting this year.

[deckingman]

Also of note is that E3D will be patenting some of their new innovations. https://e3d-online.com/blogs/news/e3d-s-no-nonsense-to-the-point-approach-to-ip

[bricor]

Another E3D blog post - 9/28/21
https://e3d-online.com/blogs/news/rapidchangerevo

[jens55]

I am looking at this new system and I am not sure what I think about it.

I know they don't have hardened nozzles yet (to come, I am sure) but when you bugger up a nozzle with abrasive material or just for the heck of it, it seems like it will be a lot more expensive than just changing the nozzle.
I have also had sensors malfunction (although they were clones) and just shudder to think what it would cost to replace the heater/sensor module.

I lean towards liking what I see but I guess we will have to see what pricing is like. I can't honestly see much of an advantage over my Dragon hot ends.
It will be interesting when first hand use reports show up on the web.

[alankilian]

@jens55 said in New hot end system from E3D?:

I guess we will have to see what pricing is like.

From that webpage:

All the cool innovation you see in Revo is still going to cost you significantly
less than anything else you’ll find in the market of this quality. In fact, for
around £100 (that’s roughly 120 USD) you’ll not only get a full Revo HotEnd 
you’ll have all four Revo nozzles to swap out. 
 

If they can sell the full hotend and four nozzles for US$120 it seems like pricing for replacement nozzles should be reasonable.

But as you said, we'll have to wait and see...

[DIY-O-Sphere]

@jens55 said in New hot end system from E3D?:

It will be interesting when first hand use reports show up on the web.

Check the jubilee discord channel....

[jens55]

@diy-o-sphere, the new E3d stuff is 'announced' but not yet 'available'. So they are all guessing there too

[DIY-O-Sphere]

@jens55
There are some beta testers,,,,

[jens55]

@diy-o-sphere said in New hot end system from E3D?:

@jens55
There are some beta testers,,,,

I must have missed that part ..... I follow that Discord

[plasticfactory]

@diy-o-sphere Which channel?

[DIY-O-Sphere]

@plasticfactory

#machine-electronics now moved to #random

[plasticfactory]

@diy-o-sphere Thank you.

Am I understanding this correctly -- if you remove the nozzle, the hotend comes off as well?

[zapta]

@alankilian said in New hot end system from E3D?:

If they can sell the full hotend and four nozzles for US$120 it seems like pricing for replacement nozzles should be reasonable.

Without cheap clones and imitations, at this price it will be a niche product, like Slice's. Weather we like it or not, it's the cheap Chinese products that create the wide adoption and a rich eco system.

[weed2all]

@plasticfactory yes!

[o_lampe]

@alankilian said in New hot end system from E3D?:

If they can sell the full hotend and four nozzles for US$120 it seems like pricing for replacement nozzles should be reasonable.

...dream on Maybe it's like buying an inkjet printer for peanuts and later spend $$$ for new ink.
It's the classic Rockefeller method: hook'em up with a cheap lantern, then sell petroleum for grands...

[o_lampe]

@bricor @dc42
They're using a PTC heater element, wondering how that will cooperate with RRF PID tuning?

[achrn]

I wonder whether the coupling between heater element and sensor (all in one integrated unit) will be tighter than between heater element and nozzle (noting also that the nozzles seems a loosish fit in the heater element - I see a spring apparently to keep things from completely loose).

But I expect E3D have some idea that it works...