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    • Dougal1957undefined
      Dougal1957 @fcwilt
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      @fcwilt said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

      @dougal1957 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

      @fcwilt I do use PT1000 and 100's as well and do prefer them and don't have any need for the additional Params as yet but we will see Hopefully Kevin gets it all sorted

      Do those devices require additional hardware to connect to a Duet board?

      Frederick

      pt1000 no but the pt100 does need the daughter board

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      • KevinMarundefined
        KevinMar @fcwilt
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        • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
          DIY-O-Sphere @fcwilt
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          @fcwilt
          Not required for PT1000 on Duet3 and Maestro

          (UTC+1)

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          • Dougal1957undefined
            Dougal1957 @DIY-O-Sphere
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            @diy-o-sphere said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

            @fcwilt
            Not required for PT1000 on Duet3 and Maestro

            nor on a wifi/ethernet duet 2 board either just not quite as accurate due to the 4k7 sense resistor rather than the 2k2 one

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            • KevinMarundefined
              KevinMar @Dougal1957
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              @dougal1957
              New parameters: M307 H2 R2.050 C309.100:130.600 D6.20 S1.00 V24.3 B0

              Another fault:
              a7bfeaa3-3de6-45da-b0c3-b7227392578c-image.png

              (I had been using the fan to cool the hotend down, so ignore values before 11:00)

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              • fcwiltundefined
                fcwilt @KevinMar
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                @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                @dougal1957
                New parameters: M307 H2 R2.050 C309.100:130.600 D6.20 S1.00 V24.3 B0

                Another fault:
                a7bfeaa3-3de6-45da-b0c3-b7227392578c-image.png

                (I had been using the fan to cool the hotend down, so ignore values before 11:00)

                Did you check your config-override.g file to see if it included M307 commands?

                Frederick

                Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                • KevinMarundefined
                  KevinMar @fcwilt
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                  @fcwilt it included M307 commands that were generated from the autotuning and saved using M500

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                  • fcwiltundefined
                    fcwilt @KevinMar
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                    @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                    @fcwilt it included M307 commands that were generated from the autotuning and saved using M500

                    So we can ignore the ones in your config.g file?

                    Frederick

                    Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                    • KevinMarundefined
                      KevinMar @fcwilt
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                      @fcwilt They're identical

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt @KevinMar
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                        @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                        @fcwilt They're identical

                        So you copied the lines from the config-override.g file and put them into your config.g file?

                        I assume you re-booted.

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • KevinMarundefined
                          KevinMar @fcwilt
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                          @fcwilt Affirmative

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                          • fcwiltundefined
                            fcwilt @KevinMar
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                            @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                            @fcwilt Affirmative

                            Strange problem you are having.

                            You posted a screen shot showing heaters Ex0, Ex1 and Ex3 faulted.

                            Were all three heating at the time?

                            Frederick

                            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                            • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                              DIY-O-Sphere @fcwilt
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                              @KevinMar

                              M308 S1 P"20.temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 A"Ex0"

                              On T0 you use a thermistor but not with the other tools?
                              What is your tuning command.

                              (UTC+1)

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                              • KevinMarundefined
                                KevinMar @fcwilt
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                                @fcwilt Yes, all 3 faulted (nearly) simultaneously, when heating is initiated simultaneously

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                                • KevinMarundefined
                                  KevinMar @DIY-O-Sphere
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                                  @diy-o-sphere Changed to thermistor (actually changed hardware) just to try troubleshooting

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                                  • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                                    DIY-O-Sphere @KevinMar
                                    last edited by DIY-O-Sphere

                                    @kevinmar
                                    CAN addresses set correctly?

                                    (UTC+1)

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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                                      @kevinmar did you see my comment about retuning with a silicone sock in place, and my suggestion to reduce the M307 R parameter?

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                      • KevinMarundefined
                                        KevinMar @dc42
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                                        @dc42 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                        If after re-tuning with the silicone sock on (if necessary) the heaters still fault, you can try reducing the M307 R parameter. Try a 30% reduction.

                                        I added the sock, retuned, and it still faulted.

                                        I reduced R from 2 to 1.5 and even to 1.0 and it didn't help

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                                        • KevinMarundefined
                                          KevinMar @DIY-O-Sphere
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                                          @diy-o-sphere lol yeah, boards working fine otherwise

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                                          • dc42undefined
                                            dc42 administrators @KevinMar
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                                            @kevinmar said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                            @dc42 said in Tool Board Heater Tuning Leading To Faults:

                                            If after re-tuning with the silicone sock on (if necessary) the heaters still fault, you can try reducing the M307 R parameter. Try a 30% reduction.

                                            I added the sock, retuned, and it still faulted.

                                            I reduced R from 2 to 1.5 and it didn't help

                                            Did the R value change much when you added the sock, or was it just the C values that changed?

                                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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